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    is there any distro / dm that allows the user to uniformally change his or her umask?

    This is what I will recommend to users who have this problem. It is quick, gets the job done for normal people. There is a technical nuance buried in there (comment #44 the asterisk portion)
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    is there any distro / dm that allows the user to uniformally change his or her umask?

    Note the (*) portion of comment 44. Though I see the conceptually it is nice to think about a file system as a tree with inheritance from parents, it does not work that way in many UNIX filesystems. Permissions are set on files when they are created, and according to the request of the creator...
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    is there any distro / dm that allows the user to uniformally change his or her umask?

    Note comment #44. The directory locking is not present on most distros. It is an expedient that any user can employ. Still, unless my technical knowledge is outdated, not a very secure apporach, note the asterisk portion of #44. It isn't something I would want as a site policy myself. I...
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    is there any distro / dm that allows the user to uniformally change his or her umask?

    It was wonderful chatting with you, and the others. It is so nice to be able to have such a discussion. I was so surprised by how long it went, that when I cam back to it, I missed a bunch of comments due to not considering the paging.
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    is there any distro / dm that allows the user to uniformally change his or her umask?

    May I have an account on one of your production machines ;-) Yes, the point being the user has not such option on many Linux installations. Anywhere the user would think to set a umask, it will be ignored by the desktop launcher. As we have worked through this, f33dm3bits did identify that...
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    is there any distro / dm that allows the user to uniformally change his or her umask?

    I tested Debian KDE, Debian Gnome, Fedora 37, Ubuntu 20.10, and Parrot Linux. The results are not good. Most users are forced to have world readable files, and they are accessible through cd to their home directory. Specifically these distributions forced users to make world readable files on...
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    is there any distro / dm that allows the user to uniformally change his or her umask?

    Alright, I will bring up a Fedora in the mix. I think the variable here might be gnome vs kde. I will check. I got the permissions change from this: The sudo is not needed for a user to change his or her own home directory as a user owns his home directory. As per my note above, home...
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    is there any distro / dm that allows the user to uniformally change his or her umask?

    It is me who must not be reading English, blurry eyed in the wee hours when looking down the permissions in the quotes swear I saw r--, but now see ---. Thank you for your patience - it is admirable and rare on the Internet. I am spinning up a Debian plasma machine as you described in #20 to...
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    is there any distro / dm that allows the user to uniformally change his or her umask?

    I gather this is a correct summary : 1. The current situation for users The defaults in all the distros, for which the people following this thread are familiar, leave users with world readable files, and for programs launched from the GUI the users have no choice about this. As most users...
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    is there any distro / dm that allows the user to uniformally change his or her umask?

    How can you like that? Every example shows world readable files. He is showing that the problem is there. Did I miss something?
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    is there any distro / dm that allows the user to uniformally change his or her umask?

    Yes all world readable. Exactly the problem. [/CODE] Those all show being world readable. The permissions are in threes, user, group, world. The user set is, 'rw-' read, write, not executable' The group set is 'r--' group readable. The world set is 'r--' world readable. What you...
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    is there any distro / dm that allows the user to uniformally change his or her umask?

    @f33dm3bits , The point was for the _user_ to be able to change his or her umask so that files are *not* world readable. Every single one of your file listings in your examples shows all the files being world readable. You just used the defaults. Do you use an email client? Do you want your...
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    is there any distro / dm that allows the user to uniformally change his or her umask?

    The topic is nuanced. That is probably why it has persisted. Yes, same topic. And yes, this problem is ~~new. Before a user could change their ~/.xinitrc file to put X startup information in. That went away. Ah no. Users working in user space can not break the system. As far as...
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    is there any distro / dm that allows the user to uniformally change his or her umask?

    You are missing the point. Launch a program from the menus to write a file. You will find it follows a different umask than that defined in your .bashrc (or .profile). This being the essence of the question. There was never any doubt that umask is working within terminals.
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    is there any distro / dm that allows the user to uniformally change his or her umask?

    I am asking about desktop login, not ssh login. Specifically where can a user set the umask and have it respected by programs launched by the desktop. Two things about this. Firstly, go ahead set a UMASK value there after a default Debian install. You will find it is ignored by programs run...
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