Rolling release distro

Suse has Tumbleweed
 


Well, they all seem to function a little different. As for stability, hell. I'm just reading threads here.
All of them have:
1. Init system: Most of them use systemd, a few others use openrc or another.
2. Bootloader: Mostly grub or systemd-boot.
3. Package manager.
4. Display server: X11 or Wayland.
5. Display Manager: gdm, lightdm, ssdm or another.
6. Desktop Environment and desktop tools that come with it: Gnome3, KDE, Xfce, Cinnamon or another.
7. Network Manager.
8. Firewall.
9. etc..

As for stability I have been running Linux as a desktop for years without running into stability issues not even with Arch. From the forums here I find it more that people are having trouble when switching over from Windows to Linux because they treat Linux as Windows and expect it to work the same and don't expect to need to learn a new system and the need for a transition time. Maybe you are referring to something else when you are talking about stability?
 
Well, if that is the case. Maybe I shouldn't be so worried.

I think I will install Linux on the desktop, but I may wait until I build a new machine. I've already been considering doing so for the last two months or so. Maybe by year end.
 
Actually, maybe I will just spin up some virtual desktops at the office and test the different distros until I find one that I actually like. That will provide me time to find an interesting one without disrupting my home life repeatedly installing different desktop versions of Linux.
 
Actually, maybe I will just spin up some virtual desktops at the office and test the different distros until I find one that I actually like. That will provide me time to find an interesting one without disrupting my home life repeatedly installing different desktop versions of Linux.
You can always install Virtualbox or Vmware on your home desktop.
 
You can always install Virtualbox or Vmware on your home desktop.
I have virtual box installed on both my primary desktop and my radio desktop. I also have a QNAP that supports virtualization. (that's where my Kali Linux lives)
 
I have virtual box installed on both my primary desktop and my radio desktop. I also have a QNAP that supports virtualization. (that's where my Kali Linux lives)
Kali is one of the distributions I hate because quite a few new comers to Linux think that's a good distribution to start just because they want to become a hacker or have hacker status.
 
Actually, the more I read here. The less sure I am as to what distro to actually use. Fedora is no longer an option because if my deep hate for IBM based on professional experience. Maybe SUSE is the answer, though I would be interested in some bleeding edge as it comes to being able to install games and them function well enough.
If I were going to recommend a fairly cutting edge distro that is also quite stable it would be OpenSuse Tumbleweed. It has fairly up to date packages and is quite well tested before release. So is stable even though it's a rolling release.
If you looking for stability it's hard to beat Debian stable, But Debian testing is also very stable and fairly current.
There are many choice best thing to do is to try a few live usbs and see which one works best for your hardware and computing needs.
 
Kali is one of the distributions I hate because quite a few new comers to Linux think that's a good distribution to start just because they want to become a hacker or have hacker status.
I tend to tell people Kali is a tool, not a desktop even though it can be used as one.
 
If I were going to recommend a fairly cutting edge distro that is also quite stable it would be OpenSuse Tumbleweed. It has fairly up to date packages and is quite well tested before release. So is stable even though it's a rolling release.
If you looking for stability it's hard to beat Debian stable, But Debian testing is also very stable and fairly current.
There are many choice best thing to do is to try a few live usbs and see which one works best for your hardware and computing needs.
Also another thing might be to consider when picking a distribution is what filesystem you want to use, depending on the answer if you want an installer that supports LVM or not.
 
If I were going to recommend a fairly cutting edge distro that is also quite stable it would be OpenSuse Tumbleweed. It has fairly up to date packages and is quite well tested before release. So is stable even though it's a rolling release.
If you looking for stability it's hard to beat Debian stable, But Debian testing is also very stable and fairly current.
There are many choice best thing to do is to try a few live usbs and see which one works best for your hardware and computing needs.
The funny thing is in my 25+ years using Linux. I have never installed SUSE.

I like Debian, but core Debian lags behind in most software. Of course, that's one of the reasons it's known for being so stable.
 
Also another thing might be to consider when picking a distribution is what filesystem you want to use, depending on the answer if you want an installer that supports LVM or not.
Yeah, that's an interesting question. I use LVM exclusively at work on virtualized hardware.

My last Linux / KVM server at home also used LVM for the primary partitions, but I mounted the storage via zfs using fuse. I still have major apprehensions about using btrfs. It has always struggled with stability compared to zfs.
 
Yeah, that's an interesting question. I use LVM exclusively at work on virtualized hardware.

My last Linux / KVM server at home also used LVM for the primary partitions, but I mounted the storage via zfs using fuse. I still have major apprehensions about using btrfs. It has always struggled with stability compared to zfs.
Fedora is now using btrfs als default filesystem, but as far as I know they weren't planning on doing the same for RHEL but who knows they may change their minds. I wouldn't use ZFS because it's not supported by the kernel by default and some licensing issues if I remember correctly. I may try btrfs at some point but that might be with my next system because I would have to figure out and understand how btrfs works first. Since currently I use ext4 with LVM on my desktop and not sure if btrfs is designed to work with LVM or that it has the same functionality as ext4 and LVM without needing LVM.
 
Maybe SUSE is the answer, though I would be interested in some bleeding edge as it comes to being able to install games and them function well enough.
Did you mean openSUSE or SUSE as in "Software und Systementwicklung"?
 
Fedora is now using btrfs als default filesystem, but as far as I know they weren't planning on doing the same for RHEL but who knows they may change their minds. I wouldn't use ZFS because it's not supported by the kernel by default and some licensing issues if I remember correctly. I may try btrfs at some point but that might be with my next system because I would have to figure out and understand how btrfs works first. Since currently I use ext4 with LVM on my desktop and not sure if btrfs is designed to work with LVM or that it has the same functionality as ext4 and LVM without needing LVM.
I do realize zfs has licensing issues and even Oracle now owns it and I dislike Oracle just like I dislike IBM. That said, zfs is the gold standard when it comes to filesystems with built in volume management.

I wouldn't install it on a production machine just for the fact that zfs is running in user space. At home, on my non-production server. Yes, please.
 
Did you mean openSUSE or SUSE as in "Software und Systementwicklung"?
Before openSUSE Linux, there was only SUSE Linux. I'm old school.
 
I did run Ubuntu LTS at one point but even then you have to do a major release upgrade at one point.

As folks know, I use an LTS Ubuntu, specifically Lubuntu. It's a major upgrade every couple of years, but it's pretty painless. The last time I did this it was a bit more painful, but that was due to a major underlying shift in technology. Because of that, it's a clean install. But, upgrading to a new version is pretty painless and hasn't broken anything in years. One thing Ubuntu gets done well is beta testing. By the time it reaches release status, it has had a whole lot of testing.

That said, ain't nothing wrong with a rolling release. I've used 'em from time to time. If anything breaks, I'm able to fix it - as a general rule. So, it's okay. Like pretty much everyone else has said, I'd probably not suggest a rolling release to a newbie. When it breaks, and it may, it's going to lead to frustration. Frustrated people are likely to return to what they know, which would be Windows or MacOS.
 
wiith a update from 20.04 to 21 ubuntu my system was getting erros messages but wen i reinstalled it from usb it was fine . I think even with a stable distros like the rhl based ones you can still get probelms when upgrading
 
There's a few ins and outs , which if you've read the docs you will be ready for
eg Excerpt from my notes :
You can use rankmirrors, which is installed by default, it's part of arch's ecosystem, instead of reflector. Just go to the pacman mirrorlist generator's page, generate and save the mirrorlist, and as root
Code:
cp /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.bak
then edit the file, uncomment some mirrors you'd like to use, and run
Code:
rankmirrors -n 10 /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.bak > /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
this might take a while depending on your internet speed. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Mirrors
 
I appreciate users who have the patience to learn Arch Linux.

I tried Arch Linux and discovered how much I didn't know about Linux.

I used the Arch Linux Revenge Installer which I'm uncertain is even currently active nowadays.

I decided Arch Linux ain't for me as I lack the patience and ain't got the time to learn the Arch Linux ways and how to.

I'm an OOTB install / update and use Linux kind of guy with no desire to become a Linux guru or Linux geek.

I'll learn what I need to learn as I go to keep my Linux distro's updated / secure and working.

I guess that makes me a lazy Linux user. o_O

I'm cool with that. ;)

Slackware wasn't exactly a walk in the park for me to learn however; I did it.
Thank goodness for good documentation.

After running it for 9 years I switched to Debian-:)

What's your favorite Linux distro?
 

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