double linux on one computer

[JKelly]

Good morning!

After a late night zoom meeting with the professors who are teaching the unix and linux admin class, I now have set guidelines for what needs to happen before the fall semester starts in september. we need to load 2 different distros. one partiation needs ubuntu 24 and the other needs parrot home. we will learn in both. the ubuntu will not have modifications to it. but, the parrot one is going to have additional modifications to create a more focused build for our cybersecurity classes in summer 2025. so, i have 3 (14 weeks each) semester. I have a dell optiplex desktop that can only run up to windows 10. there is an i5 intel cpu on this and i have been told by my husband to buy another nvme hard drive. I am trying to figure out this on my own but at the same time get websites for research so I can set this up myself. i have already warned my husband to NOT take over and let me do this. (problem when you have 2 techs in the house) I signed up for ubuntu emails, debian security emails, parrot emails.

1. does parrot have security emails for their own systems? Debian does and I signed up and read a lot about that one.
2. the dell f12 loading into the boot menu is not working. Do i press or do i tap the key? ive done both and it keeps loading into win 10.
3. i know rufus for making bootable usb sticks. is there another program that you like better? why?
4. i am searching for the drivers for my wifi adapter as this computer is old and we can not run ethernet cables into my office/bedroom. do i put those drivers on a usb stick that is not bootable? or can i put it on the bootable stick? (something is telling me that its better to use a second stick due to the bootable .iso file deleting all information on that single stick)


i am keeping the win 10 but shrinking the partition of that area of the disc. this is just in case everything goes FUBUR and I need a oops backup. ‍

im thrilled and excited but cautious and just want to make sure all my information is correct before I go forward and dive into the full linux world.

jonica

 

[Vektor]

Hi jonica

I would remove the 'Windows' disk and bag it, for safe keeping.

If you must inatall, start from scratch with Ubuntu first and Parrot second.

Both op systems also do a "live" setup that would make everything so much easier.

Vektor

 

[JKelly]

Hi jonica

I would remove the 'Windows' disk and bag it, for safe keeping.

If you must inatall, start from scratch with Ubuntu first and Parrot second.

Both op systems also do a "live" setup that would make everything so much easier.

Vektor

Morning!

I was looking at the parrot downloads and nearly broke my brain over which one was which??? down the rabbit hole of research to figure it out as it never said sec or home….. thats why I became so confused. there is also the possibility of making the win 10 an iso and using it as a bootable stick too if I really need it later.

thank you for the advice of which one first. that was also another one i had not thought of.

 

[Brickwizard]

1. does parrot have security emails for their own systems? Debian does and I signed up and read a lot about that one.

Parrot is a security distribution not a secure one, the difference is Parrot and other security distributions are developed for Penetration-testing [hacking]

2. the dell f12 loading into the boot menu is not working. Do i press or do i tap the key? ive done both and it keeps loading into win 10.

switch off machine, put USB in port switch on whilst continually tickling F12

. i know rufus for making bootable usb sticks. is there another program that you like better? why?

Rufus can be a bind most of us use Ballina Etcher

4. i am searching for the drivers for my wifi adapter as this computer is old and we can not run ethernet cables into my office/bedroom. do i put those drivers on a usb stick that is not bootable? or can i put it on the bootable stick?

until we know for sure what wi-fi you have I cannot give further advice, If you get Mint or MX running then in test mode from the terminal [black icon with $_] you can run inxi -Nn and it will give you the information

I was looking at the parrot downloads and nearly broke my brain over which one was which??? down the rabbit hole of research to figure it out as it never said sec or home…

OK brickwizard changes hat..
As gatekeeper [forum mod] for Parrot sec -forums, tell me what do you want to do,
1] learn pen-testing [hacking] uses in a VM, use on a machine with an ARM chip, ? [ i an guessing as an everyday home distribution], so this one. https://deb.parrot.sh/parrot/iso/6.1/Parrot-home-6.1_amd64.iso

 

[Vektor]

brickwizard brought up a good idea: Do everything you want from Windows in a VM. I use VirtualBox and it works great. No possible way to mess up your Windows install. Winner winner Linux dinner!

Vektor

 

[f33dm3bits]

Parrot is a security distribution not a secure one, the difference is Parrot and other security distributions are developed for Penetration-testing [hacking]

I think OP means a mailing-list where mails are sent to when it comes CVE's and important security updates.

 

[JKelly]

I think OP means a mailing-list where mails are sent to when it comes CVE's and important security updates.

Yes, I had no idea what it was called but it is that. Debian has one and I spent some time reading over that one.

 

[JKelly]

Parrot is a security distribution not a secure one, the difference is Parrot and other security distributions are developed for Penetration-testing [hacking]

switch off machine, put USB in port switch on whilst continually tickling F12


Rufus can be a bind most of us use Ballina Etcher


until we know for sure what wi-fi you have I cannot give further advice, If you get Mint or MX running then in test mode from the terminal [black icon with $_] you can run inxi -Nn and it will give you the information

OK brickwizard changes hat..
As gatekeeper [forum mod] for Parrot sec -forums, tell me what do you want to do,
1] learn pen-testing [hacking] uses in a VM, use on a machine with an ARM chip, ? [ i an guessing as an everyday home distribution], so this one. https://deb.parrot.sh/parrot/iso/6.1/Parrot-home-6.1_amd64.iso

the adapter is a tp link including a snap shot of it.

I am going to get comfortable in parrot home. they are helping us build more packages into parrot home to make a custom security system for blue and red lines. while I do want to get into coding for security and networking I would be a fool to not take some cybersecurity classes for pen-testing and IoT to know how to do these things. Do I want to do that full time. no. but it is part of what I need to learn. quite frankly, I think I would be comfortable in ubuntu and mint and be happy.

we were also given links to take a few linux foundation classes in the summer break. (no, i do not think i will ever get a full break from here on out.)

I saw your icon on the parrot forums but was unsure if it was the same person. glad to know you are over there too! so that link for the home one is perfect! thank you for that one. the site was a bit too shiny and bright and alot of terms I did not know at this point in my classes. I am a help desk tech for now. I earned my A+ in June and it came with a whopping 63 cents an hour increase at my job.....sighs.

The VM in the windows 10 machine is glitchy and keeps cutting off. I think its a GPU rendering issues. But, at this time I am ready to just toss windows entirely.

Jonica

 

[JKelly]

brickwizard brought up a good idea: Do everything you want from Windows in a VM. I use VirtualBox and it works great. No possible way to mess up your Windows install. Winner winner Linux dinner!

Vektor

I wish it worked! i use virtual box myself and loaded win 11 and then ubuntu 22.xx and the glitching and crashing was.....ow. did not help it was in the middle of a lab for a project of pinging computers on the network. I had set it up to ping the windows 10, windows 11 and then ubuntu and....it taught me very quickly that it was an issue that I needed to figure out and fix.

 

[Vektor]

Hi jonica

Most of the machines I have are equipped with 4GiB of ram or less. I only dedicate just enough for the vm to scrape by.

Also if you have multiple cores try using less for the vm.

The trick is to not kill your main OS but give the vm enough to work. Tightrope over fire.

If you can disable services or eye candy on your host os that also can help.

Vektor

 

[Brickwizard]

Most TPlink wi-fi adaptors use Realtek chipsets, many are plug and play in Linux some are not, do you know the tp Model name and full number, ?

 

[JKelly]

Most TPlink wi-fi adaptors use Realtek chipsets, many are plug and play in Linux some are not, do you know the tp Model name and full number, ?

archer T3U nano…..

• AC1300 Nano Wireless MU-MIMO USB Adapter Archer T3U Nano

heading to doctors for kids school checkups and shots…..will respond when i can

 

[Brickwizard]

MU-MIMO USB Adapter Archer T3U

its one of the Iffy ones, it may work plug and play if not..

from the terminal
git clone https://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2bu.
git cd rtl88x2bu
VER=$(sed -n 's/\PACKAGE_VERSION="\(.*\)"/\1/p' dkms.conf)
sudo rsync -rvhP ./ /usr/src/rtl88x2bu-${VER}
sudo dkms add -m rtl88x2bu -v ${VER}
sudo dkms build -m rtl88x2bu -v ${VER}
sudo dkms install -m rtl88x2bu -v ${VER}
sudo modprobe 88x2bu

I am off to finish cooking dinner.. Will be on intermittently this evening [next 4 hrs]