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The Laptop in question is an HP 15-bs212wm, and the Mic works fine under Windows..... :\ Anywho, here's the output of lspci:

Code:
hp-laptop-15-bs212wm
    description: Notebook
    product: HP Laptop 15-bs2xx (3TT16UA#ABA)
    vendor: HP
    version: Type1ProductConfigId
    serial: CND815512F
    width: 64 bits
    capabilities: smbios-3.0 dmi-3.0 smp vsyscall32
    configuration: boot=normal chassis=notebook family=103C_5335KV HP Notebook sku=3TT16UA#ABA uuid=4C3EDC85-3C64-11E8-A4C3-B4B6864990AD
  *-core
       description: Motherboard
       product: 84D4
       vendor: HP
       physical id: 0
       version: 94.21
       serial: PHGQNE31WAPW9P
       slot: Type2 - Board Chassis Location
     *-firmware
          description: BIOS
          vendor: Insyde
          physical id: 0
          version: F.42
          date: 08/06/2018
          size: 64KiB
          capacity: 3008KiB
          capabilities: pci upgrade shadowing cdboot bootselect edd int9keyboard int14serial int17printer int10video acpi usb zipboot biosbootspecification netboot
     *-cpu
          description: CPU
          product: Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4000 CPU @ 1.10GHz
          vendor: Intel Corp.
          physical id: 4
          bus info: cpu@0
          version: Intel(R) Celeron(R) N4000 CPU @ 1.10GHz
          serial: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
          slot: U3E1
          size: 1340MHz
          capacity: 2600MHz
          width: 64 bits
          clock: 100MHz
          capabilities: x86-64 fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp constant_tsc art arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc cpuid aperfmperf tsc_known_freq pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 sdbg cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave rdrand lahf_lm 3dnowprefetch cpuid_fault cat_l2 pti cdp_l2 ssbd ibrs ibpb stibp tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase tsc_adjust smep erms mpx rdt_a rdseed smap clflushopt intel_pt sha_ni xsaveopt xsavec xgetbv1 xsaves dtherm ida arat pln pts umip rdpid arch_capabilities cpufreq
          configuration: cores=2 enabledcores=2 threads=2
        *-cache:0
             description: L1 cache
             physical id: 6
             slot: L1 Cache
             size: 32KiB
             capacity: 32KiB
             capabilities: synchronous internal write-back instruction
             configuration: level=1
        *-cache:1
             description: L2 cache
             physical id: 7
             slot: L2 Cache
             size: 4MiB
             capacity: 4MiB
             capabilities: synchronous internal write-back unified
             configuration: level=2
     *-cache
          description: L1 cache
          physical id: 5
          slot: L1 Cache
          size: 24KiB
          capacity: 24KiB
          capabilities: synchronous internal write-back data
          configuration: level=1
     *-memory
          description: System Memory
          physical id: 25
          slot: System board or motherboard
          size: 4GiB
        *-bank:0
             description: SODIMM DDR4 Synchronous 2400 MHz (0.4 ns)
             product: M471A5244BB0-CRC
             vendor: Samsung
             physical id: 0
             serial: 34811210
             slot: Bottom-slot 1(left)
             size: 4GiB
             width: 8 bits
             clock: 2400MHz (0.4ns)
        *-bank:1
             description: SODIMM DDR Synchronous [empty]
             physical id: 1
             slot: Bottom-slot 2(right)
     *-pci
          description: Host bridge
          product: Intel Corporation
          vendor: Intel Corporation
          physical id: 100
          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
          version: 03
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
        *-generic:0 UNCLAIMED
             description: Signal processing controller
             product: Intel Corporation
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 0.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:00.1
             version: 03
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
             configuration: latency=0
             resources: memory:80000000-80007fff
        *-generic:1 UNCLAIMED
             description: System peripheral
             product: Intel Corporation
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 0.3
             bus info: pci@0000:00:00.3
             version: 03
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: msi pm bus_master cap_list
             configuration: latency=0
             resources: memory:a121a000-a121afff
        *-display
             description: VGA compatible controller
             product: Intel Corporation
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
             version: 03
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pciexpress msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
             configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
             resources: irq:125 memory:a0000000-a0ffffff memory:90000000-9fffffff ioport:2000(size=64) memory:c0000-dffff
        *-network
             description: Wireless interface
             product: Intel Corporation
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: c
             bus info: pci@0000:00:0c.0
             logical name: wlo1
             version: 03
             serial: 34:41:5d:dd:fb:30
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
             configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlwifi driverversion=4.15.0-38-generic firmware=34.0.0 ip=192.168.1.128 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11
             resources: irq:44 memory:a1210000-a1213fff
        *-multimedia
             description: Audio device
             product: Intel Corporation
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: e
             bus info: pci@0000:00:0e.0
             version: 03
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
             resources: irq:131 memory:a1214000-a1217fff memory:a1000000-a10fffff
        *-communication
             description: Communication controller
             product: Intel Corporation
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: f
             bus info: pci@0000:00:0f.0
             version: 03
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=mei_me latency=0
             resources: irq:126 memory:a121b000-a121bfff
        *-storage
             description: SATA controller
             product: Intel Corporation
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 12
             bus info: pci@0000:00:12.0
             version: 03
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: storage msi pm ahci_1.0 bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ahci latency=0
             resources: irq:123 memory:a1218000-a1219fff memory:a121e000-a121e0ff ioport:2080(size=8) ioport:2088(size=4) ioport:2060(size=32) memory:a121c000-a121c7ff
        *-pci:0
             description: PCI bridge
             product: Intel Corporation
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 14
             bus info: pci@0000:00:14.0
             version: f3
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:120 ioport:1000(size=4096) memory:a1100000-a11fffff
           *-network
                description: Ethernet interface
                product: RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
                vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
                physical id: 0
                bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
                logical name: eno1
                version: 15
                serial: b4:b6:86:49:90:ad
                size: 10Mbit/s
                capacity: 1Gbit/s
                width: 64 bits
                clock: 33MHz
                capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
                configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=half firmware=rtl8168h-2_0.0.2 02/26/15 latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=MII speed=10Mbit/s
                resources: irq:22 ioport:1000(size=256) memory:a1104000-a1104fff memory:a1100000-a1103fff
        *-pci:1
             description: PCI bridge
             product: Intel Corporation
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 14.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:14.1
             version: f3
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm normal_decode bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=pcieport
             resources: irq:121
        *-usb
             description: USB controller
             product: Intel Corporation
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 15
             bus info: pci@0000:00:15.0
             version: 03
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm msi xhci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=xhci_hcd latency=0
             resources: irq:122 memory:a1200000-a120ffff
           *-usbhost:0
                product: xHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.15.0-38-generic xhci-hcd
                physical id: 0
                bus info: usb@1
                logical name: usb1
                version: 4.15
                capabilities: usb-2.00
                configuration: driver=hub slots=9 speed=480Mbit/s
              *-usb:0
                   description: Video
                   product: HP Webcam
                   vendor: DGENE01BIAGCL4
                   physical id: 5
                   bus info: usb@1:5
                   version: 0.13
                   serial: 200901010001
                   capabilities: usb-2.00
                   configuration: driver=uvcvideo maxpower=500mA speed=480Mbit/s
              *-usb:1
                   description: Bluetooth wireless interface
                   vendor: Intel Corp.
                   physical id: 9
                   bus info: usb@1:9
                   version: 0.02
                   capabilities: bluetooth usb-2.00
                   configuration: driver=btusb maxpower=100mA speed=12Mbit/s
           *-usbhost:1
                product: xHCI Host Controller
                vendor: Linux 4.15.0-38-generic xhci-hcd
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@2
                logical name: usb2
                version: 4.15
                capabilities: usb-3.00
                configuration: driver=hub slots=7 speed=5000Mbit/s
        *-isa
             description: ISA bridge
             product: Intel Corporation
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0
             version: 03
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: isa bus_master
             configuration: latency=0
        *-serial
             description: SMBus
             product: Intel Corporation
             vendor: Intel Corporation
             physical id: 1f.1
             bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.1
             version: 03
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             configuration: driver=i801_smbus latency=0
             resources: irq:20 memory:a121d000-a121d0ff ioport:2040(size=32)
     *-scsi:0
          physical id: 1
          logical name: scsi0
          capabilities: emulated
        *-disk
             description: ATA Disk
             product: WDC WD5000LPCX-6
             vendor: Western Digital
             physical id: 0.0.0
             bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0
             logical name: /dev/sda
             version: 1A01
             serial: WD-WX31A185R7D7
             size: 465GiB (500GB)
             capabilities: gpt-1.00 partitioned partitioned:gpt
             configuration: ansiversion=5 guid=ca7511bd-d679-4ecf-853e-ea0b05d574ae logicalsectorsize=512 sectorsize=4096
           *-volume:0 UNCLAIMED
                description: Windows FAT volume
                vendor: mkfs.fat
                physical id: 1
                bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,1
                version: FAT32
                serial: ea4d-be18
                size: 485MiB
                capacity: 486MiB
                capabilities: boot fat initialized
                configuration: FATs=2 filesystem=fat name=EFI System Partition
           *-volume:1
                description: EXT4 volume
                vendor: Linux
                physical id: 2
                bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,2
                logical name: /dev/sda2
                logical name: /
                version: 1.0
                serial: 898e4786-b22a-49f3-80ef-270cfc61fabb
                size: 255GiB
                capabilities: journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover 64bit extents ext4 ext2 initialized
                configuration: created=2018-10-03 23:53:09 filesystem=ext4 lastmountpoint=/ modified=2018-11-07 14:18:30 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered mounted=2018-11-07 14:18:35 state=mounted
           *-volume:2
                description: Linux swap volume
                vendor: Linux
                physical id: 3
                bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,3
                logical name: /dev/sda3
                version: 1
                serial: 4d3fcff2-4e96-4b9b-a33f-5ed057b27010
                size: 4095MiB
                capacity: 4095MiB
                capabilities: nofs swap initialized
                configuration: filesystem=swap pagesize=4095
           *-volume:3
                description: reserved partition
                vendor: Windows
                physical id: 4
                bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,4
                logical name: /dev/sda4
                serial: ee30992d-13ac-45d0-b565-23120e35a79f
                capacity: 15MiB
                capabilities: nofs precious readonly hidden nomount
                configuration: name=Microsoft reserved partition
           *-volume:4
                description: Windows NTFS volume
                vendor: Windows
                physical id: 5
                bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,5
                logical name: /dev/sda5
                version: 3.1
                serial: 6cce6cbc-e08d-f74a-a148-0dfbfab2ee78
                size: 205GiB
                capacity: 205GiB
                capabilities: ntfs initialized
                configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2018-10-23 13:04:18 filesystem=ntfs name=Basic data partition state=clean
     *-scsi:1
          physical id: 2
          logical name: scsi1
          capabilities: emulated
        *-cdrom
             description: DVD writer
             product: DVDRW  DA8AESH
             vendor: hp
             physical id: 0.0.0
             bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0
             logical name: /dev/cdrom
             logical name: /dev/cdrw
             logical name: /dev/dvd
             logical name: /dev/dvdrw
             logical name: /dev/sr0
             version: XH6M
             capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r
             configuration: ansiversion=5 status=ready
           *-medium
                physical id: 0
                logical name: /dev/cdrom
  *-battery
       product: JC03031
       vendor: 133-42-6E
       physical id: 1
       version: ManufDate
       serial: 28927 03/13/2018
       slot: Primary
       capacity: 31207mWh
       configuration: voltage=10.9V
  *-power UNCLAIMED
       description: OEM Define 1
       product: OEM Define 5
       vendor: OEM Define 2
       physical id: 2
       version: OEM Define 6
       serial: OEM Define 3
       capacity: 75mWh

The Mic is all crackly and sounds like it came from a Metal Gear game..... :< It's cool if you like that effect, but..... :3 Well, thank you for any help guys..... :3 Oh yeah, and I'm using Xubuntu with Pulseaudio..... :3
 


G'day Adam :)

Can you give us the outputs for the following?

Code:
lspci | grep -i audio

# and then

dmesg | grep snd

I don't mind telling you that I fly by the seat of my Wizard's pants with audio/video, so I may not get the answer, anyone more knowledgeable can chip in at any time :D

The problem is with the laptop's builtin mic, is that so? And what happens with a plugin mic?

Wizard
 
G'day Adam :)

Can you give us the outputs for the following?

Code:
lspci | grep -i audio

# and then

dmesg | grep snd

I don't mind telling you that I fly by the seat of my Wizard's pants with audio/video, so I may not get the answer, anyone more knowledgeable can chip in at any time :D

The problem is with the laptop's builtin mic, is that so? And what happens with a plugin mic?

Wizard
Hello good sir!..... :3 The output of lspci | grep -i audio is:

Code:
00:0e.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 3198 (rev 03)

And the output of dmesg | grep snd is:

Code:
[   16.891351] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:0e.0: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_audio_component_bind_ops [i915])
[   16.967061] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: autoconfig for ALC3227: line_outs=1 (0x14/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) type:speaker
[   16.967065] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[   16.967067] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    hp_outs=1 (0x21/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[   16.967068] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    mono: mono_out=0x0
[   16.967069] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    inputs:
[   16.967071] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:      Mic=0x19
[   16.967073] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:      Internal Mic=0x12
[  126.181779] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:0e.0: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj.

Does that help.....? :3 Thank you SO much, good sir..... :3
 
Hey Adam I see you are online, I have some news but I will put it together and post it next 24

Cheers and it's Friday in Oz so ...

Avagudweegend

Chris
 
Hey Adam I see you are online, I have some news but I will put it together and post it next 24

Cheers and it's Friday in Oz so ...

Avagudweegend

Chris
Yeah, it's one of those nights, up late in front of my Laptop geeking out..... :3
 
G'day :)

Thanks for the output. I ran the commands myself on this Linux Mint I am on, and it's worth noting similarities and differences. I have highlighted a part of yours as the most noticeable difference.

Code:
chris@Tara-Cinnamon-SSD:~$ lspci | grep -i audio
00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio (rev 21)

and

Code:
chris@Tara-Cinnamon-SSD:~$ dmesg | grep snd
[    7.132211] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
[    7.136796] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_audio_component_bind_ops [i915])
[    7.216515] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: autoconfig for ALC3246: line_outs=1 (0x14/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) type:speaker
[    7.216516] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[    7.216517] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    hp_outs=1 (0x21/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[    7.216518] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    mono: mono_out=0x0
[    7.216519] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    inputs:
[    7.216520] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:      Headset Mic=0x19
[    7.216521] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:      Headphone Mic=0x1a
[    7.216522] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:      Internal Mic=0x12

Adam's

Code:
[   16.891351] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:0e.0: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_audio_component_bind_ops [i915])
[   16.967061] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: autoconfig for ALC3227: line_outs=1 (0x14/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) type:speaker
[   16.967065] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[   16.967067] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    hp_outs=1 (0x21/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[   16.967068] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    mono: mono_out=0x0
[   16.967069] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    inputs:
[   16.967071] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:      Mic=0x19
[   16.967073] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:      Internal Mic=0x12
[  126.181779] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:0e.0: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj.

Now those figures for Headset Mic (in my case, "Mic" in yours) and Internal Mic, of 0x19 and 0x12 are, as I understand it, typical and normal.

But the part, of yours, in red got me thinking.

I ran a Google search under "linux lspci microphone" and also "IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj" and found this, which also had links to two articles.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/203792/bdl-pos-adj-set-irq-timing-workaround-for-hda-intel

Now I note you have pulseaudio rather than alsa but there might be similarities? There is also pavucontrol which you can install from Synaptic, may help.

That's the best I can do for now.

Cheers

Wizard
 
G'day :)

Thanks for the output. I ran the commands myself on this Linux Mint I am on, and it's worth noting similarities and differences. I have highlighted a part of yours as the most noticeable difference.

Code:
chris@Tara-Cinnamon-SSD:~$ lspci | grep -i audio
00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio (rev 21)

and

Code:
chris@Tara-Cinnamon-SSD:~$ dmesg | grep snd
[    7.132211] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
[    7.136796] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_audio_component_bind_ops [i915])
[    7.216515] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: autoconfig for ALC3246: line_outs=1 (0x14/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) type:speaker
[    7.216516] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[    7.216517] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    hp_outs=1 (0x21/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[    7.216518] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    mono: mono_out=0x0
[    7.216519] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    inputs:
[    7.216520] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:      Headset Mic=0x19
[    7.216521] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:      Headphone Mic=0x1a
[    7.216522] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:      Internal Mic=0x12

Adam's

Code:
[   16.891351] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:0e.0: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_audio_component_bind_ops [i915])
[   16.967061] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: autoconfig for ALC3227: line_outs=1 (0x14/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) type:speaker
[   16.967065] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[   16.967067] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    hp_outs=1 (0x21/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)
[   16.967068] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    mono: mono_out=0x0
[   16.967069] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:    inputs:
[   16.967071] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:      Mic=0x19
[   16.967073] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0:      Internal Mic=0x12
[  126.181779] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:0e.0: IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj.

Now those figures for Headset Mic (in my case, "Mic" in yours) and Internal Mic, of 0x19 and 0x12 are, as I understand it, typical and normal.

But the part, of yours, in red got me thinking.

I ran a Google search under "linux lspci microphone" and also "IRQ timing workaround is activated for card #0. Suggest a bigger bdl_pos_adj" and found this, which also had links to two articles.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/203792/bdl-pos-adj-set-irq-timing-workaround-for-hda-intel

Now I note you have pulseaudio rather than alsa but there might be similarities? There is also pavucontrol which you can install from Synaptic, may help.

That's the best I can do for now.

Cheers

Wizard
Thank you, Mr. Wizard!..... :3 I'll check the link out, and yes, it's interesting how similar our outputs are..... :3
 


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