I install debian unstable to get latest gnome version when i updated to trixie it was showing gnome 44. Does any one have a answer

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root@shreyash-inspiron3537:/home/shreyash# neofetch
_,met$$$$$gg. root@shreyash-inspiron3537
,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P. --------------------------
,g$$P" """Y$$.". OS: Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid x86_64
,$$P' `$$$. Host: Inspiron 3537 A12
',$$P ,ggs. `$$b: Kernel: 6.8.12-amd64
`d$$' ,$P"' . $$$ Uptime: 17 mins
$$P d$' , $$P Packages: 2715 (dpkg)
$$: $$. - ,d$$' Shell: bash 5.2.21
$$; Y$b._ _,d$P' Resolution: 1366x768
Y$$. ."Y$$$$P"' DE: GNOME 44.9
`$$b "-.__ WM: Mutter
`Y$$ WM Theme: Adwaita
`Y$$. Theme: Adwaita [GTK2/3]
`$$b. Icons: Adwaita [GTK2/3]
`Y$$b. Terminal: gnome-terminal
`"Y$b._ CPU: Intel i5-4200U (4) @ 2.600GHz
`""" GPU: AMD ATI Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8690M / R5 M33
GPU: Intel Haswell-ULT
Memory: 2219MiB / 3802MiB



shreyash@shreyash-inspiron3537:~$ sudo su
root@shreyash-inspiron3537:/home/shreyash# apt-get install -t experimental gnome-desktop-environment
Reading package lists... Done
E: The value 'experimental' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources
root@shreyash-inspiron3537:/home/shreyash# neofetch
 


The neofetch output appears to be inaccurate:
On this trixie machine:
Code: 
[tom@min ~]$ cat /etc/os-release | grep trixie
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid"
VERSION_CODENAME=trixie
the gnome package is:
Code: 
[tom@min ~]$ apt-cache show gnome | grep Version
Version: 1:44+1

The E (error) message in relation to "experimental" being invalid is because the experimental repository was not found in the sources.list.

Debian discusses the "wisdom" or lack of it in mixed repos in the sources.lists here:

DontBreakDebian - Debian Wiki

wiki.debian.org wiki.debian.org

The very latest gnome would be in the sid release of debian, but usually it's only a week or so before it appears in testing (trixie currently). If you wish to run debian experimental, it would be wise to read the debian docs here:

DebianExperimental - Debian Wiki

wiki.debian.org wiki.debian.org
 
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osprey said:
The neofetch output appears to be inaccurate:
On this trixie machine:
Code: 
[tom@min ~]$ cat /etc/os-release | grep trixie
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid"
VERSION_CODENAME=trixie
the gnome package is:
Code: 
[tom@min ~]$ apt-cache show gnome | grep Version
Version: 1:44+1

The E (error) message in relation to "experimental" being invalid is because the experimental repository was not found in the sources.list.

Debian discusses the "wisdom" or lack of it in mixed repos in the sources.lists here:

DontBreakDebian - Debian Wiki

wiki.debian.org wiki.debian.org

The very latest gnome would be in the sid release of debian, but usually it's only a week or so before it appears in testing (trixie currently). If you wish to run debian experimental, it would be wise to read the debian docs here:

DebianExperimental - Debian Wiki

wiki.debian.org wiki.debian.org
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Thank you very much for this info. It was very usefull. But i have one more question "Can we install GNOME 46 on the Debian 'experimental' if yes how if no thank you very much??"
 
Shreyash Savant said:
Thank you very much for this info. It was very usefull. But i have one more question "Can we install GNOME 46 on the Debian 'experimental' if yes how if no thank you very much??"
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There doesn't appear to be a program called "gnome" in experimental here:
but rather, a number of programs that partially make up the gnome desktop environment (DE).

If you install a discrete gnome package from experimental, it may pull in the dependencies it needs. One would need to be installing from debian sid release, that is, the unstable installation as mentioned on the debian site mentioned in post #2.

A careful approach would be to use the simulation option in apt-get try and install one or more of the discrete gnome packages to see what it draws in, and if it looks like it's drawing appropriate dependencies, then that may be good sign that it will work, e.g.:
Code: 
apt-get -s install <gnome_package>
If it looks okay, remove the -s option, and the install will run. It's working at the "bleeding edge" so there are no guarantees as to the successful functioning just yet for those programs.
 
osprey said:
There doesn't appear to be a program called "gnome" in experimental here:
but rather, a number of programs that partially make up the gnome desktop environment (DE).

If you install a discrete gnome package from experimental, it may pull in the dependencies it needs. One would need to be installing from debian sid release, that is, the unstable installation as mentioned on the debian site mentioned in post #2.

A careful approach would be to use the simulation option in apt-get try and install one or more of the discrete gnome packages to see what it draws in, and if it looks like it's drawing appropriate dependencies, then that may be good sign that it will work, e.g.:
Code: 
apt-get -s install <gnome_package>
If it looks okay, remove the -s option, and the install will run. It's working at the "bleeding edge" so there are no guarantees as to the successful functioning just yet for those programs.
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shreyash@shreyash-inspiron3537:~$ neofetch
_,met$$$$$gg. shreyash@shreyash-inspiron3537
,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P. ------------------------------
,g$$P" """Y$$.". OS: Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid x86_64
,$$P' `$$$. Host: Inspiron 3537 A12
',$$P ,ggs. `$$b: Kernel: 6.8.12-amd64
`d$$' ,$P"' . $$$ Uptime: 30 secs
$$P d$' , $$P Packages: 2305 (dpkg)
$$: $$. - ,d$$' Shell: bash 5.2.21
$$; Y$b._ _,d$P' Resolution: 1366x768
Y$$. ."Y$$$$P"' DE: GNOME 46.2
`$$b "-.__ WM: Mutter
`Y$$ WM Theme: Adwaita
`Y$$. Theme: Adwaita [GTK2/3]
`$$b. Icons: Adwaita [GTK2/3]
`Y$$b. Terminal: gnome-terminal
`"Y$b._ CPU: Intel i5-4200U (4) @ 2.600GHz
`""" GPU: AMD ATI Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8690M / R5 M33
GPU: Intel Haswell-ULT
Memory: 1124MiB / 3802MiB





Thank you very much. For any one reviewing this to get experimental gnome 46 you need to edit your source files then run in root "apt -t experimental install gnome-shell gnome-control-center gnome-applets mutter gjs" the mutter is for safety
 
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