Solved Is there solid alternative to google translate?

[CaffeineAddict]

I've dumped google in favor of duckduckgo, it's slower and not as great but good enough and so far happy.

However I can't disable google cookies due to google translate which depends on google cookies to be set,
so what alternative do you suggest that is as good and feature rich as google translate?

It doesn't have to be web based as long as it's as good.

 

[chieff]

Hi!
Unfortunately, there will always be downsides. you can't avoid compromise.
Firefox offers a wide range of translators (extensions), so good luck.

 

[CaffeineAddict]

Tested several of them so far and for now I'll be using the below one unless you have something better to offer:

Lingva Translate

Alternative front-end for Google Translate, serving as a Free and Open Source translator with over a hundred languages available

www.lingva.ml

What is special about it is that it support auto translate and has audio feedback just like google translate, but sadly does not support translating files. (not big issue though)

 

[kc1di]

I find Deep L to be the best translator for most languages. But it does not do all of them.
I just use their webpage and have an extension on vivaldi do not know about FF.

 

[CaffeineAddict]

I find Deep L to be the best translator for most languages. But it does not do all of them.

Thanks, I've checked DeepL but don't like their commercial offerings and giant "trial" button, it's distracting

 

[chieff]

Tested several of them so far and for now I'll be using the below one unless you have something better to offer:

Lingva Translate

Alternative front-end for Google Translate, serving as a Free and Open Source translator with over a hundred languages available

www.lingva.ml

What is special about it is that it support auto translate and has audio feedback just like google translate, but sadly does not support translating files. (not big issue though)

I'm not sure I fully understand your need to stop using gtranslator
but... have you tried using Chromium browser (not Chrome)? + private window. you can set up a cookie rejection and continue to use gtranslator.

 

[CaffeineAddict]

I'm not sure I fully understand your need to stop using gtranslator
but... have you tried using Chromium browser (not Chrome)? + private window. you can set up a cookie rejection and continue to use gtranslator.

It's very simple, google is collecting too much data about their users.
As soon as I'm done with google only YT will be left irreplaceable, MS is going to be next and then I'm going to self-proclaim my freedom.

Sorry but want to stay with Firefox.
There is crow-translate KDE translate program but it's not yet in bookworm, but will be in next Debian release, Trixie.

Debian -- Details of package crow-translate in trixie

 

[KGIII]

YT will be left irreplaceable

Search for 'Invidious'.

 

[CaffeineAddict]

Search for 'Invidious'.

Interesting service, unfortunately there is issue watching a video twice in a row:

 

[Terminal Velocity]

Today FF ESR jumped 12 versions and it doesn't spell check Greek anymore as I type, such a failure update, they make the browser worse

EDIT: OK I take this back, I had to add a dictionary... but still, why should I have to do that

 

[CaffeineAddict]

Today FF ESR jumped 12 versions and it doesn't spell check Greek anymore as I type, such a failure update, they make the browser worse

Unfortunately I can't the Mozilla link I found once on their forums, basically Mozilla does not recommend using ESR but normal release.
Not only because of new features but also security wise, there was explanation by them how upstream version is more secure to use in addition to being bleeding edge.

 

[Terminal Velocity]

Unfortunately I can't the Mozilla link I found once on their forums, basically Mozilla does not recommend using ESR but normal release.
Not only because of new features but also security wise, there was explanation by them how upstream version is more secure to use in addition to being bleeding edge.

ESR is often many versions back, for now is just 2, 128.xx. Yesterday I installed the regular Firefox from their repos but I don't know yet if it updates automatically so I can decide which one I will use

 

[GatorsFan]

there is Reverso - https://www.reverso.net/text-translation

Yandex - https://translate.yandex.com/

 

[CaffeineAddict]

but I don't know yet if it updates automatically

I'm using upstream version and it updates normally, if you put their repo to your apt sources all you have to do is run apt update or which ever package manager you use, there are instructions on their site.

I'm updating it like every other package on my system with apt.

 

[CaffeineAddict]

there is Reverso - https://www.reverso.net/text-translation

Yandex - https://translate.yandex.com/

Reverso is limited with languages, unfortunately my language is not on the list.
And yandex, hm, isn't this just another google? except it's Russian version of it.

 

[GatorsFan]

ESR is often many versions back, for now is just 2, 128.xx. Yesterday I installed the regular Firefox from their repos but I don't know yet if it updates automatically so I can decide which one I will use

If you want the regular Firefox on Debian based Distro's instead of the ESR you can do the following
To install the .deb package through the APT repository, do the following:

Create a directory to store APT repository keys if it doesn't exist:

sudo install -d -m 0755 /etc/apt/keyrings

Import the Mozilla APT repository signing key:

wget -q https://packages.mozilla.org/apt/repo-signing-key.gpg -O- | sudo tee /etc/apt/keyrings/packages.mozilla.org.asc > /dev/null

If you do not have wget installed, you can install it with:

sudo apt-get install wget

Next, add the Mozilla APT repository to your sources list:

echo "deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/packages.mozilla.org.asc] https://packages.mozilla.org/apt mozilla main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mozilla.list > /dev/null

Configure APT to prioritize packages from the Mozilla repository:

echo '
Package: *
Pin: origin packages.mozilla.org
Pin-Priority: 1000
' | sudo tee /etc/apt/preferences.d/mozilla

Update your package list and install the Firefox .deb package:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox

once installed you can remove the ESR version update will be done through mozilla ppa this is mine below

 

[Terminal Velocity]

If you want the regular Firefox on Debian based Distro's instead of the ESR you can do the following
To install the .deb package through the APT repository, do the following:

Create a directory to store APT repository keys if it doesn't exist:



Import the Mozilla APT repository signing key:


If you do not have wget installed, you can install it with:


Next, add the Mozilla APT repository to your sources list:



Configure APT to prioritize packages from the Mozilla repository:



Update your package list and install the Firefox .deb package:


once installed you can remove the ESR version update will be done through mozilla ppa

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Your instractions look similar to what I did yesterday, here:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/k...ox-deb-package-for-debian-based-distributions

Will this update automatically with the rest of the OS? I have unattended updates enabled

 

[GatorsFan]

Your instractions look similar to what I did yesterday, here:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/k...ox-deb-package-for-debian-based-distributions

Will this update automatically with the rest of the OS? I have unattended updates enabled

you have to run sudo apt update as far as I know - yes they are based on that

 

[KGIII]

Interesting service, unfortunately there is issue watching a video twice in a row:

View attachment 22044

You'll have to be patient, I suppose. Google's doing a lot of changes right now, trying to block APIs and the various tools used to block ads. They'll get it sorted so that you can watch twice if you want to.

At least I assume they will. They've managed to keep YouTube "Google-free" (inasmuch as it is) for quite a few years now. You can even spin up your own instance.

 

[osprey]

On the youtube front, freetube is worth considering. It works like a browser itself. It's used here extensively, but occasionally it borks until it gets fixed. It's here: https://freetubeapp.io/

On the matter of de-googling oneself, I think it's a complex matter. For example, despite what one arranges on their own machines, since so many websites use google analytics, a user is often at the mercy of their own online usage. To anonymise oneself online and still have really fast broadband can be quite a challenge according to the reading I've done so far but it's not my area.

In my own case, I've found google search superior to any other search engine, except, on some occasions using searx on linux here: https://searx.tuxcloud.net/. At other times I've used various searx sites from here: https://searx.space/, and also found useful outputs.