Linus Torvalds Comments On The Russian Linux Maintainers Being Delisted

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Moving this to Security.

Wizard
 
I am a very political person and of course I think that symbolic acts can be a nice way to convey a message of solidarity to a people that's living something as bad as an invasion, but I really doubt that's the reason why Linus expelled the russian maintainers.

My idea is that there must be some kind of legal or financial constraint related to sanctions that made easier for Linus to just straight up expel them rather than trying to find a legal loophole and the only reason why he brings up him being Finnish and whatever is the need of distracting the press and the public from that. I wouldn't be surprised if he was under some kind of secret NDA

What do you think about it?
 
I merged posts. They're the same topic.

Reminder: Politics is strictly off limits. Obviously, we've not crossed that barrier yet, else I'd have had to deal with that.

Now, for something sort of on topic...

I have a number of websites. There are some of them where I block all access for certain traffic - like traffic originating in Russia (and other countries that have a history of not sending the greatest traffic). A VPN would easily get you around this, of course. But, basic geolocation is generally enough to do the trick.
 
I am a very political person and of course I think that symbolic acts can be a nice way to convey a message of solidarity to a people that's living something as bad as an invasion...

I happen to have downloaded 'Deskreen portable v2.0.4' (2022-Nov-12) earlier this year, which is of Ukrainian origin:

« ...turns any device with a web browser into a secondary screen. »​

The matter of security did become a concern when i realized some enemy hackers might want to attack those using it in support, or even donating money - and it is multiplatform after all. Yet i found most ironic to end up on Elon Musk's former Twitter after clicking on its [ Donate ] button, now moved to:


Put briefly ain't it quite a serious issue, especially if we add the Starlink role played in a more global context!

:oops:
 
I wouldn't be surprised if he was under some kind of secret NDA

What do you think about it?
The article has the following text:
When asked whether Linus Torvalds was under any sort of NDA around this, he responded:

"No, but I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not going to go into the details that I - and other maintainers - were told by lawyers."
Linus is known for his deeply committed attitude and approach to free open source software.

Here's an item, with a video on an associated subject of secretiveness in relation to backdooring linux:

It's worth pointing out that linux development and maintenance relies on trust, about which there's a lot of information online in relation to how the developers and maintainers work with each other, and a break in that trust such as a secret NDA deal would be a very grave matter. It's hard to imagine that such a breach from Linus would occur given the way linux is developed. Personally, I don't speculate about it without any evidence, rather take the view that one trusts until it's broken. The recent experience of a breach of trust on the xz issue is a case in point where the perpetrator was uncovered, dealt with, and trust restored.
 
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Reminder: Politics is strictly off limits. Obviously, we've not crossed that barrier yet, else I'd have had to deal with that.
Thank you for all your efforts as one of our "Gatekeepers". With all the spam you deal with and making sure all the forum rules, especially regarding politics that could tear this site apart are enforced with tack... I finding it amazing that you have time to help so many with Linux
 
I finding it amazing that you have time to help so many with Linux

It's a bit of a passion project for me. I'm also retired, at least in theory I am.

I find it's easier to nudge folks in the right direction than it is to use formal moderation tools. It's usually a better outcome. Sure, sometimes you get people who insist on violating the rules but they're relatively few and far between.

I also find it's easier to be patient - and to not have a good memory. I don't let it get to me and I don't hold a grudge for very long.

Also, with the way the forum is set up, you don't see the vast majority of spam attempts. We nail them before they reach the public forum. That helps keep things looking tidy.
 
The usual double standards, which I am so used to that I ignore them most of the time. in this particular case, as far as I know, the main developers are Swedes or Norwegians or something like that, so they can do what they think is right. The indicative thing in this case is that the code itself has remained in its place.
 
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It's not double standard if country X invaded another country and country Y has not. It's actually objective.
 
Just recently i downloaded RedCore 2401 Tarazed stable (6G3, 2024-Oct-2) and noticed some ties with Linuxiac, founded in May 2020 by Bobby Borisov, currently assisted by Alex Penev and Brian Borisoff it seems. Considering the consonnance of those names i've got to wonder if these resources are safe. Any idea?

The incentive here was about it being Gentoo-based though now featured with the 'Sisyphus' package manager.
 
Just recently i downloaded RedCore 2401 Tarazed stable (6G3, 2024-Oct-2) and noticed some ties with Linuxiac, founded in May 2020 by Bobby Borisov, currently assisted by Alex Penev and Brian Borisoff it seems. Considering the consonnance of those names i've got to wonder if these resources are safe. Any idea?

The incentive here was about it being Gentoo-based though now featured with the 'Sisyphus' package manager.

I have never used RedCore, but I do not really think that there is anything to be objectively worried about, the depositions in the kernel maintainers list were a matter of compliance with regulations, which if I understand correctly, were likely brought up to their concern because of the following (The Linux Foundation operates in the United States, and is thus subject and liable to regulations set by the United States government):

Kernel developer James Bottomley wrote that "we" (seemingly speaking for Linux maintainers) had "actual advice" from Linux Foundation counsel. Employees of companies on the Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control list of Specially Designated Nationals and Blocked Persons (OFAC SDN), or connected to them, will have their collaborations "subject to restrictions," and "cannot be in the MAINTAINERS file." "Sufficient documentation" would mean evidence that someone does not work for an OFAC SDN entity, Bottomley wrote.
Source: Ars Technica - Removal of Russian coders spurs debate about Linux kernel’s politics
 
No need to worry.

I too have Redcore - it is Romanian.

Wizard
 
I was responding to @Egzoset .

I was perfectly serious. I hope you do not have an issue with that.

Wizard
 

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