Linux desktop sucks 2025!!!

[APTI]

sorry but with the recent people posting this sort of thing it is tough to see who is kidding. I wondered when I saw but then figured hacked account.
You will find that sarcasm and much humor rely on vocal inflections. They do not come out in post or text.

 

[Terminal Velocity]

sorry but with the recent people posting this sort of thing it is tough to see who is kidding. I wondered when I saw but then figured hacked account.
You will find that sarcasm and much humor rely on vocal inflections. They do not come out in post or text.

Once you get to this paragraph it becomes obvious that he is joking, Black humor I must admit but he can't be serious

Windows and MacOS are better. They collect telemetry for good reason, so they know how to improve your user experience. They won't abuse your data and sell it to the highest bidder, but they have honest intentions. They can then use that same data to monitor the security of your system, so they can notifiy you if something out of the ordinary is happening on your system. That's what I call real security, as for what else you get. You get life and mental security as for when you do too many searches on something that could harm you or someone else, then they can just notify a medical professional to save your life or that other person's life. I call that way better security than any form of security Linux could every give.

Few months ago I was obligated to make a Windows machine and after I finished my work I kept it to play games and do Windows stuff, now I'm bored of games and since I don't trust at all that machine I'm back to Debian, I am a tested Linux user now

 

[SlackwareGuy]

Why does Linux still suck so bad in 2025?!!

Let me start with desktop environments. KDE Plasma what a joke, full of constant bugs and you have to have a degree in computer science to find anything in the settings. Gnome not any better, you need to use extensions to add basic functionality that Windows has out of the box, Cinnamon and LXQT look likey the came from before 2010. Now come the worst ones, LXDE, Xfce and Mate they look like they are from the time when Richard Stallman had just graduated from college. Software stores are crap, most of the time they break and when you ask on a forum like linux.org of how to fix your system they tell you to open a terminal and run some random command. Like what age are we living in the 90's, terminal's shouldn't be needed anymore there should be good working GUI's for everything!

Tiling window managers? Are you joking?! Having to manually configure everything and playing around with windows like we are solving a Rubik's Cube. Are we here to work or to solve puzzles while using our computer? They generally look like trash and you need to be an expert in css and some programming language to configure them or else you will be called a noob when using one that you configure in a regular text file.

Packaging and package managers on Linux are a disaster. rpm, apt, pacman, zypper, portage, nix. Why the need for so many, all distributions should just pick one that way there is more standardization between distributions Also security on Linux what a joke, no desktop application containerization package managers the packages are installed by root, what happens if the source gets compromized and you run an infected package as root on your system. Apparmor pretty much useless on other distributions because the profiles only get written for Ubuntu. Don't get me started on selinux, you call that security having the NSA spy on your system since we all know there is a backdoor in selinux.

We we get to some form of desktop application containerization. Snaps, are a seucrity risk because of the Snapstore and had already had snaps there were infected. Flatpaks are trash and install libraries dependencies double for each Flatpak application and on top of that also not to mention what is already installed on your system by native packaging. Appimages? Shut the frontdoor, these are a laughing joke most of them don't automatically update and they don't even integrate correctly with your desktop environment so you have to manually create shortcuts for them so that you can use them as shortcut or find some abscure program that one person manages for it to be done automatically.

Gaming on Linux? Is utter trash, your depending on the Steam client, Lutris or HGL. Some games work others don't and when you want to play your favorite fps shooter or competative game you can't because of Kernel Anti-cheat not working on Linux. You need to look up launch options on ProtonDB or use random install scripts from Lutris. Now you are stuck to opensource games, they are worse that dos games from back in the 90's! Oh wait you can write your own game on Linux because everyone is a super nerde code hacker

Linux and opensource software are amateur pieces of garbage compure to propietary software which good looking and well thought out GUI's. GIMP as alternative for Photoshop, stop don't make me laugh you might make me defecate myself, the Photoshop subscriptions are well worth it compared to how much time you lose with GIMP. Libreoffice, it looks like Word Perfect and and notepad had a child together, although even notepad looks better than something like nano, vim and emacs which the latter one you need to memorize a manual for. Speaking of opensource software, it seems like all applications do their own theming and don't use the system theming.

Windows and MacOS are better. They collect telemetry for good reason, so they know how to improve your user experience. They won't abuse your data and sell it to the highest bidder, but they have honest intentions. They can then use that same data to monitor the security of your system, so they can notifiy you if something out of the ordinary is happening on your system. That's what I call real security, as for what else you get. You get life and mental security as for when you do too many searches on something that could harm you or someone else, then they can just notify a medical professional to save your life or that other person's life. I call that way better security than any form of security Linux could every give.

Long story short. Linux and opensource software still sucks in 2025. Just give it and move to a real os like Windows or MacOS. You have a real well thought out user interface and you get applications that are actaully done well and you get customer support with the software you pay or the subscriptions for the software you have. No need to deal with support questions on forums like these. Lastly you can just use the Windows software store to install most of your applications and won't need to worry about not being able to install games launcher because it not being supported by something else. And most importantly kernel level anti-cheat works so you can play all of your favorite fps shooters and competative games and race simulators. Meaning you get even more security by those anti-cheat companies tracking the security on your system since they can also see everything that happens on your pc.

If I haven't convinced you to switched to Windows or MacOS you are a lost cause and instead of using Linux(or BSD) you just be a real nerd not some fake nerd who uses an operating system written by someone else. Instead go be a real nerd like Terry Davis and write your own operating system since you think you can write something better than Windows or MacOS.

P.S Even TempleOS is better than that garbage piece of software that all of you use in different variants and call GNU/Linux. I rest my case, see you on the otherside in Windows or MacOS or I will use a ouji board to summon Terry Davis and ask him to haunt you into learning HolyC so you can write your own os which is the only thing better than using GNU/Linux.

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What a nut. I think it's subjective. Everyone has their own opinion. I've been using i3wm for 4 years now and I love it. It's simple. It's worth the hours of setup. Terminal - yeah, it sucks. I think we will not live to see the advent of normal GUI applications on Linux that can generally replace cli. Sorry for my bad english (I'm Russian).

GNOME sucks. Literally


Soooooo... Let's just be positive and wait

 

[f33dm3bits]

What a nut. I think it's subjective. Everyone has their own opinion. I've been using i3wm for 4 years now and I love it. It's simple. It's worth the hours of setup. Terminal - yeah, it sucks. I think we will not live to see the advent of normal GUI applications on Linux that can generally replace cli. Sorry for my bad english (I'm Russian).

GNOME sucks. Literally


Soooooo... Let's just be positive and wait

In case you didn't get it this was a joke/sarcastic post. I think the Linux desktop is great but there is always room for improvement. Everyone has their personal preferences and that's the nice thing about opensource software, you can choose what you want to use and what you don't want to use. Some hate Gnome, others love gnome. I fall into the latter category.

 

[APTI]

In case you didn't get it this was a joke/sarcastic post. I think the Linux desktop is great but there is always room for improvement. Everyone has their personal preferences and that's the nice thing about opensource software, you can choose what you want to use and what you don't want to use. Some hate Gnome, others love gnome. I fall into the latter category.

then perhaps you now have learned that sarcasm does not carry well in text. After a few arguments with gf I learned to use emoji to indicate that I was joking. Otherwise sarcasm and jokes of that sort do not carry well in writing. Something lost in translation.

 

[f33dm3bits]

then perhaps you now have learned that sarcasm does not carry well in text.

For some people, for others it does because there were enough people that did get it.

 

[APTI]

For some people, for others it does because there were enough people that did get it.

only if they knew you. Just suggesting an option that I found works. Then there may be no "others"

 

[f33dm3bits]

only if they knew you. Just suggesting an option that I found works. Then there may be no "others"

You mean using emoji's, yeah will use them next time. But I think the emoji's selection suck on this forums software since there's only a small selection to use.

 

[KGIII]

There's also the sort-of universal "/s" to denote sarcasm in text.

That still carries problems because, while it has been in use for years, not everyone is aware of it.

But, I read everything in it's best light. Meaning, if there's a way to interpret it as a positive thing then that's how I interpret it. I make that assumption until proven otherwise.

Sadly, some folks just like umbrage and will find it everywhere they look.

 

[APTI]

There's also the sort-of universal "/s" to denote sarcasm in text.

That still carries problems because, while it has been in use for years, not everyone is aware of it.

But, I read everything in it's best light. Meaning, if there's a way to interpret it as a positive thing then that's how I interpret it. I make that assumption until proven otherwise.

Sadly, some folks just like umbrage and will find it everywhere they look.

I was not aware of the "/s" thing so count me in there.
while you may have read that way it was because you know the person. No way for those that do not to know. Even I thought it was serious although perhaps hacked. And I don't consider myself to be overly stupid, just mildly.

 

[KGIII]

No way for those that do not to know.

That's why I read things in their best light. I assume no ill intent until demonstrated otherwise.

I'd do that naturally, out of habit, but it's also an important skill for moderation - or so I think. If I read everything posted in their worst light, I'd sure remove a lot of posts/members for trolling (or similar).

Though, I guess one might debate the 'naturally' part. As I mentioned, it's now a habit. It's something I had to work on over the years, especially in areas where people have strong opinions and a keen eye for debate.

As I sometimes say, "Keep an open mind, but not so open that your smarts fall out."

I also don't get emotional about things - as a general rule. If I spoke as a moderator to someone one day, I'll have forgotten about it in the following days. I only really keep track if it's a pattern.

Again, and for clarification, that's how I do things. Nobody is obligated to do the same things. I speak only for myself.

 

[APTI]

That's why I read things in their best light. I assume no ill intent until demonstrated otherwise.

I'd do that naturally, out of habit, but it's also an important skill for moderation - or so I think. If I read everything posted in their worst light, I'd sure remove a lot of posts/members for trolling (or similar).

Though, I guess one might debate the 'naturally' part. As I mentioned, it's now a habit. It's something I had to work on over the years, especially in areas where people have strong opinions and a keen eye for debate.

As I sometimes say, "Keep an open mind, but not so open that your smarts fall out."

I also don't get emotional about things - as a general rule. If I spoke as a moderator to someone one day, I'll have forgotten about it in the following days. I only really keep track if it's a pattern.

Again, and for clarification, that's how I do things. Nobody is obligated to do the same things. I speak only for myself.

Very good outlook especially for moderator. Many mods have bad attitudes. Thanks for not being one of those.

 

[KGIII]

Many mods have bad attitudes.

Yeah... There are people who abuse 'power'. I actually don't like banning people or editing posts. I don't like being the bad guy.

Except for spammers. Man, screw those people.

Well, there are some folks I don't mind banning. I've removed multiple posts from overtly racist people and banned them immediately. I don't mind doing that!

Anyhow, read this (or skim it):

Irony punctuation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It is common in online conversation among some Internet users to use a fictitious closing tag patterned after HTML: </sarcasm>. Over time, it has evolved to lose the angle brackets (/sarcasm) and has subsequently been shortened to /sarc or /s (not to be confused with the valid HTML end tag </s> used to end a struck-through passage).[20] Users of the website Reddit frequently denote sarcasm through the use of /s, as shorthand.[21] This usage later evolved into tone indicators.

I'd note that I'm not sure why they only mentioned Reddit. The use of /s goes back to USENET days, long before Reddit existed.

As you're well aware, sarcasm (or irony) isn't always obvious in text. I sometimes use an emoticon to ensure people know that I'm smiling and mean no harm. Unfortunately, I do not always remember to do so.

 

[APTI]

Yeah... There are people who abuse 'power'. I actually don't like banning people or editing posts. I don't like being the bad guy.

Except for spammers. Man, screw those people.

Well, there are some folks I don't mind banning. I've removed multiple posts from overtly racist people and banned them immediately. I don't mind doing that!

Anyhow, read this (or skim it):

Irony punctuation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I'd note that I'm not sure why they only mentioned Reddit. The use of /s goes back to USENET days, long before Reddit existed.

As you're well aware, sarcasm (or irony) isn't always obvious in text. I sometimes use an emoticon to ensure people know that I'm smiling and mean no harm. Unfortunately, I do not always remember to do so.

you have taught me something new. Unfortunately my brain is full so I had to eliminate something. forget what it was though. I used to mod a chat site for a bit. Actually was in charge of the mods. My edict was talk to a person before kicking them out and make sure all is ok and check your own attitude. I brought my emergency service training to the mod. Went well until i was ousted by power abusing people. Many liked my style I enforced but it was the same thing law enforcement uses which was the training I had.

 

[KGIII]

I brought my emergency service training to the mod.

While off-topic, I was on the search & rescue squad for quite a while. I was involved in a pretty spectacular automobile wreck (as a passenger) and stopped that. I also taught advanced rope rescue techniques to the squads around me. (While we lose a few tourists every year, we're pretty good at finding them. Though, sometimes we don't find them until it's a bit too late.)

Empathy and sympathy go a long way in life. This one was tough for me, but it also helps a great deal to be an 'active listener'.

Hmm... I'll end this here. There's more I can say but rules are rules.

 

[f33dm3bits]

After a few arguments with gf I learned to use emoji to indicate that I was joking

There's also the sort-of universal "/s" to denote sarcasm in text.

I'll use those next time, thanks for the suggestions but it still being the internet there is no chance that everyone will get it even with those.

@APTI Also be sure to check the history of the user next time before taking something so seriously.

 

[MikeWalsh]

@KGIII :-

I'd note that I'm not sure why they only mentioned Reddit. The use of /s goes back to USENET days, long before Reddit existed.

From what I can gather, there's a sizeable sub-section of online users who seem to be of the opinion that if it's not being discussed on Reddit, then it's not worth discussing.....at all.

?????

Personally, I have no time for the tribal, pseudo-feudalistic attitudes openly displayed on that site. I'm sure it's a "generational" thing; I suspect it appeals to a somewhat younger crowd, who have grown up with all this online stuff from youth.....and seem to have a very different outlook on life in general.


Mike.

 

[KGIII]

Personally, I have no time for the tribal, pseudo-feudalistic attitudes openly displayed on that site.

The site is "great" if you stick to certain subs AND those subs you're interested in aren't just dumpster fires.

The site as a whole is a mess. They have cleaned up a lot of the garbage as they are hoping to monetize it better. The problem is, in cleaning up the garbage they've often put garbage back in place.

But, it's a great resource for a variety of topics. I've been diving into retro gaming and that's an example of a solid community that's actually helpful. My state sub isn't even terrible. We don't really have the population centers to make it worthwhile to have 'city' subs.

But, they've cleaned up a lot of the trash.

And, no... No, the whole /s thing is much older than Reddit. I'd fix Wikipedia but I'm way too lazy for that. Also, I don't know of any servers that retain data that long. USENET still exists but it's not nearly what it once was.