Linux Mint 22 Release Delayed Due to Nasty Bugs!

[GatorsFan]

Ever since Cinnamon 6.2 came out, the race has been on to ship the upcoming Linux Mint 22 “Wilma” release, with the best levels of refinements possible during the phase of development.
If you didn't know, it is a long-term support release (until 2029) based on Ubuntu 24.04, and is a big one for the developers to get up and running on schedule.
Sadly, they have hit a nest of bugs that have pushed its release date further.

Linux Mint 22 Release Delayed Due to Nasty Bugs!

Linux Mint fans, you will have to wait a bit more...

news.itsfoss.com

 

[wizardfromoz]

Moving this to Linux Mint.

Wiz

 

[kc1di]

I found ubuntu 24.04 it self quite buggy and I'm sure there are many things for the Mint team to figure out. But one good thing is they are working on it so the finished project should be good. If I'm not mistaken they are also trying to transition to Wayland though not sure it will be default by final.

 

[bob466]

Once the bugs are fixed, it will be great as the rest.

 

[Condobloke]

I look at the bugs, daily.

I am still of the opinion that a great many, if not the majority of them, have been passed down from Ubuntu. Ubuntu has a lot to answer for......they have been in the game for long enough to turn out a better effort than 24.04
Hence, Clem's move with LMDE6. Being closer to the fray, he sees the writing on the wall much more clearly than us.

Ubuntu's motives, if they have any, are beyond me. It also cements in place my attitude toward Linux Mint....I will stay there at least until 2029. The possibility of my staying there beyond that is quite high....but as always, time will tell.

Clem and the team there will work away, diligently, untill all the obstacles are done away with.

Of course, in the midst of their work they encounter crap such as this:

My giant list of bugs and regressions. · Issue #91 · linuxmint/mint22-beta

Grub is ugly. Ugly font, lettering too small on a generic 1080p monitor WAY too long to boot off of USB key. Likely a systemD issue. Cannot save a file to the home folder from the live USB environm...

github.com

It is to be noted that the team working on bugs etc, etc is small, but dedicated.

 

[Brickwizard]

Clem's move with LMDE6.

Brian
I have been using Mint on at least one machine since Mint 3 was issued. I still have mint 21 on one of my desktop drives [kept updated every month] yet, I haven't used it since LMDE 6 hit the shelves, I find LMDE slightly lighter and faster without the added bloat of Ubuntu behind it.

 

[Condobloke]

Brian, I have a smallish job to do tomorrow......that will be to reinstall LMDE6 on a second ssd in my main tower....although I may even install it alongside LM21.3.... might be more easily accessible that way....hmmm
it was installed on there quite successfully until a week ago or so when I tried to swap ssd's from one pc to another....and the whole thing went sideways....not sure why, but had no inclination or time to sort it out so I just formatted both of them, reinstalled LM22 on the second ssd and it is running quite happily on a pc which I have christened the 'dumpster pc'....because that is where it came from.

I have experienced a number of differences between LM21.3 and LMDE6.....not problems....just differences...and being a creature of habit I need to spend a couple of days "fitting" my usual habits into lmde6....in other words setting it up completely to suit me. I use my pc for more than just browsing Linux.org

I will probably open a thread when I am done, and give a blow by blow rundown from my perspective

My initial 'take' on lmde was good. Certainly quick. How it shapes up when I have loaded it with all my 'crap' remains to be seen.

 

[Brickwizard]

in other words setting it up completely to suit me.

yep, I have added the extras I need to my LMDE,
I have said it before with Linux you find 20 people using the same distribution, but by the time most Linux users will have chopped and changed bits to suit themselves then you would be lucky to find 2 running exactly the same version of the distribution

 

[kc1di]

Mint has been a solid and dependable distro since it's introduction. LMDE 6 is great also. Problem with mint is Ubuntu it's 6 month release no matter what schedule, doesn't give their devs time enough to fix many bugs. And so when they release it seems more and more that it's buggy. Which mint team does a great job of fixing. I won't go into all the choices ubuntu has made over the years that make it harder and harder for Mint team to reconcile it as a base for Mint, But will say I think mint's future may be with LMDE. Just my opinion. In any event Mint manages to put out a solid distro which ever base they use.

 

[Trynna3]

As a newbie to Linux: are there any advantages on Mint on Ubuntu over Debian based?
I have even installed 32bit version Q4OS on my old laptop, avoiding Ubuntu as I am not getting good vibes from Ubuntu overall.

 

[kc1di]

Mint 22 final is in .iso testing right now. Should be released soon.
@Trynna3 Mint is good full bodied desktop Debian which I use mostly is solid and stable. My advice is try them live and choose the one that suits your computing and personal need the best. Also one that is most compatible with your hardware. Cheers.

 

[Trynna3]

Mint 22 final is in .iso test right now. Should be release soon.
@Trynna3 Mint is good full bodied desktop Debian which I use mostly is solid and stable. My advice is try them live and choose the one that suits your computing and personal need the best. Also one that is most compatible with your hardware. Cheers.

I already have LMDE6 installed, but I see the Ubuntu version is more popular. So I wanted to know what are the advantages on Ubuntu over Debian on Mint, except that Mint came first on Ubuntu, as I understand it?

 

[Cyberbleuet]

On test Mint 22 beta look very stable...

 

[Brickwizard]

Debian is one of the original base Linux systems, and is the parent/grandparent to many of those currently available,
so
Debian stable is the main system
Ubuntu is based on Debian with its own additions
Mint 21/22 is based on Ubuntu
Mint LMDE is based directly on Debian

LMDE not contain the bloat from Ubuntu is slightly smaller on the hard drive and runs slightly faster [but it is negligible, so most users would not notice]
they look the same and work in much the same way, so it's down to personal preference [mine is LMDE]

 

[Condobloke]

I wanted to know what are the advantages on Ubuntu over Debian on Mint,

At least with LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) you won't get the bad vices you have picked up on from Ubuntu....vibes which I also get.
What that means for me is....I will continue running LM21.3 until LM22 (both based on ubuntu) is solid enough to use. The Linux Mint team will ensure it is as reliable and solid as 21.3
The time may come when ubuntu becomes 'unreliable'....at which time Clem will simply continue his development etc of LMDE and I will carry on with that as if nothing had happened.

 

[Condobloke]

Linux Mint 22 has been approved for release. Next will come transferring the Finished article to the mirrors around the world.

In terms of time?...probably 24 hours or thereabouts

Time now?

https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/chicago

Chicago
Mon
8:43:46pm
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone/utc
UTC
Tue
01:43:

Sydney 11.44 AM

Brisbane: 11.44 AM

Thanks for the clocks, @atanere

 

[Condobloke]

 

[wizardfromoz]

Nice work, Brian.

 

[Trynna3]

LMDE not contain the bloat from Ubuntu is slightly smaller on the hard drive and runs slightly faster [but it is negligible, so most users would not notice]
they look the same and work in much the same way, so it's down to personal preference [mine is LMDE]

So in essence Ubuntu based Mint has more features, right?
I think I can stick with LMDE for now, too. I just wondered what made Ubuntu Mint used far more than LMDE. Most materials online (like youtube videos showing Mint) are Ubuntu based.
I went for LMDE from rational point of view: that it is more stable and developed in case Ubuntu ditched Mint for some reason. Ubuntu was one of the first words I associated with Linux, overall, before becoming more familiar with Linux.

 

[Brickwizard]

So in essence Ubuntu based Mint has more features, right?

one way of looking at it, Ubuntu adds some of its own packages and modifies some other Debian packages to make a stable Ubuntu distribution, Mint the add some of their own bits and again modifies the Ubuntu they use as a base, Mint produced LMDE many years ago, but it only lasted a short time as most regulars stuck with the Ubuntu based product, this time there is more pick up on LMDE as some users begin to object to the direction Conical [Ubuntu's owner" are going]