Linux Mint Install Failure on older ASUS Zenbook N501JW

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Just to be thorough I disconnected the battery, the "watch battery", and the RAM. I pressed the Power Button for minutes at a time, and waited a full 15 minutes before reconnecting everything.

The BIOS date/time reset. I load into Linux Boot Repair and still get the 'Locked-NVram detected' error. I don't know how to clear that. Perhaps that is the problem?
 

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And just to triple-check... I installed the Linux NVMe into my desktop computer and Linux Mint booted up. So it seems like the problem is pointing at the ASUS laptop.
 

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Just to be thorough I disconnected the battery, the "watch battery", and the RAM. I pressed the Power Button for minutes at a time, and waited a full 15 minutes before reconnecting everything.

The BIOS date/time reset. I load into Linux Boot Repair and still get the 'Locked-NVram detected' error. I don't know how to clear that. Perhaps that is the problem?
I'm out of ideas, I'm sorry.
However I did look up that exact message {error nvram is locked (linuxmint not found in efibootmgr) that you are getting and found this. It looks promising to me. I hope it works for you.

 
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Yes, it does appear that the problem is with the Asus laptop. Not 100 % sure but I think it's a BIOS issue.
You could call the Asus Technical Support # and ask them how to get around this issue.

1 (888) 678-3688

 
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I'm out of ideas, I'm sorry.
However I did look up that exact message {error nvram is locked (linuxmint not found in efibootmgr) that you are getting and found this. It looks promising to me. I hope it works for you.
Thank you for your help and your suggestion.

I did try steps 6 - 11. I opened Terminal and pasted this code:
sudo efibootmgr -c -d /dev/nvme0n1 -p 1 -l \\efi\\ubuntu\\grubx64.efi -L "Linux Mint"

Relaunched Boot Repair and ran it. Upon reboot unfortunately my laptop went straight to BIOS again. The 'Boot" section of my BIOS still does not show a drive. ASUS really didn't want anyone to install Linux on their machine, I think.
 

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It is possible that the BIOS upgrade you did had a problem. One expects that a BIOS upgrade does improve on the one it replaces. Reflashing BIOS is often said to be a risky installation, and known to brick computers. I'm wondering whether another attempt at reflashing the BIOS would be worth a shot. If you could get official support as Alexee pointed to, that would be good. Perhaps search online to see if there have been problems with that particular BIOS and upgrade.

I expect you've rest the BIOS to factory defaults at some point to test that, though it doesn't sound hopeful at this point.
 
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Perhaps our member @Brickwizard can trouble shoot this issue?
OK some general thoughts [as its not on my bench,] note I have not ha d time to read the full story so far!

NOT all NVMe's and SSD's are Linux compatible, there are only a few that are not [google your full make/model number with "Linux compatible", and see if anyone else has had the same problem.

Assuming the drive is not at fault, first check the boot order in the BIOS, it should be USB, NVMe,[other storage] [other input eg. optical drive]
next check the SATA settings [also in BIOS]

Have you disabled windows fast boot [quick start] if it came as W8/10/11, as well as secure boot?

I see you used Rufus to burn your ISO, Rufus has not been playing well with Linux for now about 2 years, Try https://www.balena.io/etcher.
Use a good quality, reasonably new branded pen-drive [old one's can developed faults which don't show up with windows or using as a storage extension]

These are my thoughts. at the moment.
 

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I have a 2012 Asus laptop that came with w7...If I want to install Mint Cinnamon...I download the ISO and burn it to a Flash Drive with Etcher. It's running Cinnamon 20.3 now but might install 21.1 or maybe 21.2 which comes out soon...Laptop now has a 500GB SSD.

I plug in the Flash Drive...then press the power button...then start tapping the Esc key which brings up the Boot Option Menu...I then select my Flash Drive and hit Enter which Boots to Mint.
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ok so I have had a quick read through, some further thoughts
I installed the Linux NVMe into my desktop computer and Linux Mint booted up. So it seems like the problem is pointing at the ASUS laptop.
Can you run Mint live from the pen-drive and use it to get online from the Acer? If yes,make sure the NVMe is connected, then run live, make sure it's connected to the net, then in the terminal run inxi -Fnxxz, and copy/paste back the result
I updated to the latest BIOS
I only update BIOS as a last result, as it often causes more problems than it solves, and then only if I can tell it is at fault, on a 2015 machine that should not be necessary.

When purging the BIOS memory and re-setting the bios, do not remove the ram on that machine you disconnect from mains, remove all accessories [USB's, etc] switch on, the press and hold the power on button down for 60 seconds release and re-boot,[you do not need to remove any batteries]

The next move is a pain. Do you still have the original ssd/hard-drive for that machine? Is it in working order? If you now re-install it, will it boot up normally? If it boots normally and works then the bios should be OK, and we are back to either compatibility or settings errors
NOT all NVMe's and SSD's are Linux compatible,
Finally,
I have just discovered the Zenbook N501** series is not on the NVMe compatibility list.

Are you sure it has an NVMe card and not an SSD [both can have the same pin configuration]

{I Will not edit any of my post in this thread as the general notes may be useful to others}
 
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I have just discovered the Zenbook N501** series is not on the NVMe compatibility list.
Are you sure it has an NVMe card and not an SSD [both can have the same pin configuration]
That is interesting. The OEM Drive, which I still have and use, is a Samsung SM951, which is a SSD drive. (I thought it was a NVMe).

Maybe that is why the BIOS does not even show my NVMe drive. That would make sense why the laptop goes straight to BIOS.

Looks like I need to find a SSD drive and try that.

Very interesting. I thought all M.2-type drives were NVMe.

Edit. I just found a sticker on the laptop that says: "2280 M.2 SATAIII SSD only"
 

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M2 is the basic pin configuration, this may be worth reading
Thanks again. Picking out a drive is more complicated than I thought.

Samsung doesn't make it easy either. They made two different versions of the OEM SM951.

Distinguishing the AHCI and NVMe version from each other isn't very simple as the difference lies in a single character in the model number. The AHCI version carries the code MZ-HPVxxx0 (where xxx is the capacity in gigabytes), whereas the NVMe version is called MZ-VPVxxx0.

I made sure to buy the MZ-HPV2560 which is the AHCI version. It is not as popular as the NVMe version so I had to order it from China.
 
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