Proton Account Query.

[wm460]

I just set up a proton email account, I get 500MB storage but if I set up auto-forwarding from Gmail they will upgrade my Proton Mail storage to 1 GB.
I have a gmail account that I never used when I tried to link it I get this.
1st photo its say google has rejected my request.
2nd poto it says proton access gmail.

How can I get around this?

 

[Condobloke]

I have a gmail account that I never used

One way might be to start using the account......that is probably why they rejected it

You could always start using your gmail address as your email address for Linux .org......that will at least get it started and then they may allow it.

I would see it as being unproductive......why have a gmail account if you are going to have a proton account ?

Protons reputation is based on the fact that they don't steal your information/data....whereas Gmail absolutely steals your information/personal data

I think all email providers are criminals. They tell lies. They take what is not theirs.

proton may well be the best of a bad lot. zoho mail is owned by an Indian corporation, but on the surface seem half ok

I note that proton has :

Mail Plus​

€4.99
€3.99 /month
which is around $6.45 australian per month.....they charge for 12 months at €47.88 every 12 month ($77.20)
I just mention this if you want/need more storage.

I would not give another email address to them as a "recovery" address. I also would not give them my phone number.

What do I use ?.....gmail. I have come to the inescapable conclusion that they already have all my info.
I have been a member of various forums since around 2011 and used gmail way back then...so my info is screwed.

I do not trust gmail (google) ....I am not sure I trust proton either.

 

[Condobloke]

Don't pay too much attention to my 'rant'....I am in a "mood" this morning

 

[Condobloke]

this is worth an objective look

What's the Difference Between Free and Paid Versions of Gmail? | by Digital First

Why should a business use the paid version of Gmail instead? There are seven main reasons which make paying for Gmail a very easy decision.

www.digitalfirst.com

 

[Condobloke]

And this: This was written by Proton Mail

Is Gmail secure? | Proton

Gmail is not completely secure or private. Here are five steps to make Gmail more secure and the best alternative to protect your privacy.

proton.me

 

[wm460]

Thanks, I guess it will be better to delete gmail. They know enough about me now, less I can add to their store of information the better.

I came across this link.

How to remove personal information from the internet and protect your privacy | Proton

Discover how to remove your personal information from the internet to safeguard your privacy by reducing your digital footprint.

proton.me

 

[blunix]

I think all email providers are criminals. They tell lies. They take what is not theirs.

I MASSIVELY agree to this statement, especially when it comes to "we protect your privacy" nonsense.

If you have the technical background, how would you design a smtp provider that actually protects your privacy? I've been thinking about starting one for quite some time now and have a number of ideas how to make this ACTALLY respect customers privacy, but would be curious about what you guys think.

 

[Terminal Velocity]

Google is offering a very functional free email service, in fact in functionality matters it may be the best out there, but they don't make clear to the user under which circumstances their data can be browsed and by who, which is far more easy and common to happen than even the aware people think. If they made that clear with a red banner when you register I would have been with Google all the way, but they don't do such things

 

[Trenix25]

First, you really don't have to link another email account to use Proton. Second, gmail copies and keeps your emails. Third, you might log into your gmail account to see if you need to give it permission to link to your Proton account. Fourth, using gmail isn't the only reason to have a Google account. It is also used in the Play Store and when logging in to YouTube. Be wary of offers of free stuff if you give websites something they want. They do this to entice you into giving them something they want and in return they offer you something that you might want. It's up to you to protect your privacy.

Signed,

Matthew Campbell

 

[wm460]

I would not give another email address to them as a "recovery" address. I also would not give them my phone number.

Long time ago I had a secure email, back in the big pond days before NBN I used the missus phone No and email account, fast forward a few year after we got NBN then microtwat /google stuffed up their password manager

Don't pay too much attention to my 'rant'....I am in a "mood" this morning

I can sympathize with you, I was doing a little job in my shed yesterday and cut the only piece of wood too small.

 

[Condobloke]

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Third, you might log into your gmail account to see if you need to give it permission to link to your Proton account.

For the time being I am not taking on a proton account.... But, if I do, it will not be an addition to gmail, it will replace gmail.

I do not 'log in' to watch youtube...ever. I still watch YouTube

The only other resource of googles that I use is google maps.

 

[wm460]

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For the time being I am not taking on a proton account.... But, if I do, it will not be an addition to gmail, it will replace gmail.

I only have proton on linux, the rest is on iPhone now, will start deleting the apps

I do not 'log in' to watch youtube...ever. I still watch YouTube

Good idea, I do the same.

 

[Trenix25]

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For the time being I am not taking on a proton account.... But, if I do, it will not be an addition to gmail, it will replace gmail.

I do not 'log in' to watch youtube...ever. I still watch YouTube

The only other resource of googles that I use is google maps.

Sometimes YouTube requires you to log in, depending on what you watch. If the movie is rated R it will require it. Some movies have bad language or violence. I sure wish YouTube had more decent sci-fi movies and less horror movies.

Signed,

Matthew Campbell

 

[Condobloke]

I have zilch interest in "watching" youtube. I use the rotten thing as a tool only.....and then only in an extremely minimalist way. If I cannot find an answer on linux.org, or a few of the other appropriate sites, I may look on youtube.....maybe.

I certainly don't rely on youtube for entertainment. Never. My life is not so boring that I need to do that.

 

[osprey]

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For the time being I am not taking on a proton account.... But, if I do, it will not be an addition to gmail, it will replace gmail.

I do not 'log in' to watch youtube...ever. I still watch YouTube

The only other resource of googles that I use is google maps.

Google is ubiquitous online. One can have a look at some of that omnipresence in a few ways. One way is to have a look at the html source code of a website page. For example, in the firefox browser, and some others like brave, and probably most others, the user can right click the mouse, select the option: "view page source" or some similar option, and then have a look at the number of times the term "google" is present. One can use the find facility to do that too on that source code page. A good example is this forum's page: https://linux.org/forums. Looks like there's a lot of google, whether one is a user of its apps or not.

 

[Condobloke]

Yes, it would appear the $ trumps all here as well.

Google has its name mentioned on that page 29 times

However, it would be of more interest to know just how "deep" google is able to dive into a members info etc simply because they visit linux.org

 

[osprey]

Yes, it would appear the $ trumps all here as well.

Google has its name mentioned on that page 29 times

However, it would be of more interest to know just how "deep" google is able to dive into a members info etc simply because they visit linux.org

Google may know the ip address, and a name if one is logged into them, and have stats on the usage of that ip address, but it doesn't know who is using the computer. In that respects it's stats are not necessarily representative of any single person, but rather, may be an amalgam of a number of people, and it doesn't know that. Maybe what it doesn't know, like what's in one's mind, is also useful to factor into the possibilities. In that respect, it's quite disarmed

For gmail though, the situation is more obscure, which means, if privacy is a concern, don't use it.

 

[Condobloke]

An interesting read:

Which Email Providers Are Scanning Your Emails?

There are plenty of email service providers, but which one should you trust? Find out which email providers are scanning your emails.

www.maketecheasier.com

 

[Condobloke]

GMX Mail​

Another lesser-known email provider, Germany-based GMX provides free email accounts that are advertising-supported but completely private. Your emails aren’t data mined, and even better, they provide user-friendly end-to-end encryption using PGP, one of the best available encryption standards.

Verdict: Ad-supported, but no reading/scanning/tracking and good encryption standards.

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Kolab Now

Another Swiss email provider, KolabNow only offers paid email accounts and doesn’t have built-in encryption but enjoys the same strong privacy protections as ProtonMail.

Verdict: Simple, private Swiss email account, no scanning.

 

[osprey]

If one is concerned about privacy, then one of the seemingly useful things to do is to read the privacy policy of the company that one is interested in using for a service. Many opinions and reviews online of companies can be revealing, especially from people who've actually used the services they are reviewing. Ultimately however, it's the "fine print" that one can expect to carry most weight, and in my own reading, it's always in favour of the company over the subscriber. However, in most western countries there are corporation laws and government authorities that can override company policies. Proton was not immune:

The Wiretap: How A ProtonMail FBI Search Led To A Suspect Threatening A 2020 Election Official

After a Wisconsin official was harassed via an anonymous Protonmail user, the FBI began investigating, grabbing data from the encrypted email provider and other tech giants.

www.forbes.com

There's a saying online about privacy policies that goes something like this: "so you're privacy's been compromised? What are you going to do about it?" The essential inference to my mind is that any breach of privacy policy has little consequence for the company, so it's virtually useless to the user.