"RTFM"

Nelson Muntz

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She did ask me to replace W10 on her laptop with Linux, only I thought it was a BIOS-LEGACY system and when installing I chose the partition where windows was installed not the one used for backups, just to learn after that both were actually erased and data was gone, apparently that's a UEFI thing, luckily could recover most of it.
UEFI bios seems to always be biting users in the behind. :p
 


jglen490

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I do, wouldn't run anything else. Eventually, that's all there will be.

UEFI is not a problem for installing Linux. Now what can be a problem is MB makers that deliberately dork up their UEFI implemtation.
 

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Help Desk 101:
Is it plugged in?
 

Rachmani3652

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I know "RTFM" as a response in Linux forums is generally frowned upon and perceived as dismissive (except in the Debian forums) but it struck me the other day that RTFM may be the kindest and most appropriate reply a person could give.

The reason I say that is because I have seen a number of posts (not just here) where someone decides to install Linux and starts mucking around with their partition tables and formatting stuff only to discover they have deleted or destroyed their valuable, unrecoverable, un-backed-up, personal data AND made their only operating system (usually Windows) either unbootable or even worse unusable.

Could it be that in those instances a simple "RTFM" (read the manual or instructions) first could have saved a world of hurt?

I wouldn't say it in that many letters myself - but sometimes I wish I could stay someones hand BEFORE they click that button to proceed! LOL We've all done it - clicked too quickly. I've done it myself a time or two - like the time I accidentally formatted a guys Windows XP partition - oops :\

I guess the point is - sometimes telling a person to read the directions is actually doing them a favor ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Read the fucking manual! lmfao! Good advice.
 

Nik-Ken-Bah

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"Gotta tear it down to see how it works."
That makes two of us then TC but for me only mechanical watchamacallits. But when younger also pulled thermionic valves apart to see how they were put together. But also I am a avid reader of anything I can learn something from, plus my jobs I had through life meant you needed the manual along side you just in case or to refresh the memory.
 

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RTFM is an absolutely appropriate response - WHEN is is a part of the conversation and illuminates a complex subject.

So, I can say, "I use rsync -auv <source> <target> as a backup solution", and then say, "Look at man rsync, because there are a lot of ways to use it" rather than trying summarize the whole complex thing in a sentence or two.
 

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Hmmm, RTFM is the least of some people’s problems!

I remember one of my threads a while ago, I can’t remember if it was here, or somewhere else - some random person created an account just to post a drive-by comment on one of my responses asking why I didn’t make a YouTube video as a reply, instead of writing a post.

It went something along the lines of “wow, haven’t any of you guys ever heard of YouTube? I don’t understand why you couldn’t just make a video and make it easier to understand instead of writing loads of stuff for me to read. It’s the 21st century!”

My initial thought was “Really?!! Wow!“

I don’t even think it was a long winded response. A couple of simple terminal commands with a short explanation of each.
How difficult could that be to read?!

In my posts, I try to explain things clearly, fully as simply as I can. Which is why many of my posts are so long winded. When I saw that response, I thought “Jeez, how dumbed-down do I need to make things?!”

So even when you give somebody a complete solution, you still get the odd idiot who wants it read to them via YouTube!!

They were probably the special type of idiot who only knows the story-lines of books that were made into films......

I despair sometimes, I really do!
Everybody knows that the books are always better than the movies!!

Reading is important. And so is reading the ******* manual!

I think my shirt says it all!!
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VP9KS

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Hmmm, RTFM is the least of some people’s problems!

I remember one of my threads a while ago, I can’t remember if it was here, or somewhere else - some random person created an account just to post a drive-by comment on one of my responses asking why I didn’t make a YouTube video as a reply, instead of writing a post.

It went something along the lines of “wow, haven’t any of you guys ever heard of YouTube? I don’t understand why you couldn’t just make a video and make it easier to understand instead of writing loads of stuff for me to read. It’s the 21st century!”

My initial thought was “Really?!! Wow!“

I don’t even think it was a long winded response. A couple of simple terminal commands with a short explanation of each.
How difficult could that be to read?!

In my posts, I try to explain things clearly, fully as simply as I can. Which is why many of my posts are so long winded. When I saw that response, I thought “Jeez, how dumbed-down do I need to make things?!”

So even when you give somebody a complete solution, you still get the odd idiot who wants it read to them via YouTube!!

They were probably the special type of idiot who only knows the story-lines of books that were made into films......

I despair sometimes, I really do!
Everybody knows that the books are always better than the movies!!

Reading is important. And so is reading the ******* manual!

I think my shirt says it all!!
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Jas,
I guess that to rtfm, you must first be able(and willing) to read. Sadly that seems to be a lost art to some.:rolleyes:

It would seem that they never read (oh, yeah, there is that confounded word again) the immortal words of Ben Franklin:
"Tell me and I forget,
Teach me and I may remember,
Involve me and I learn."

C'est la vie!!

P.S. Nice shirt, mate!
 
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