{SOLVED & FUN} Backup & Recovery

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Please be aware... Newbie, to Linux and to this Forum. I have spoken English all my life and Microsoft for almost 50 years. Linux, under 20 days. So, yeah... Newbie.

Fast overview. Got real serious about getting away from Microsoft about a year ago. Did a bunch of YouTubing, and reading. I thought I was ready so a few weeks ago I purchased a MiniPC with Ubuntu 22.xx.x installed. Hooked it all up & booted. First thing it did was update to Ubuntu 24.04.1. No problems. WiFi hooked up, mouse. keyboard and monitor - no error messages. Got sound.

Did a few visual things and also moved the Task bar to the bottom. Before I go any further and make a mess out of my life, I would like to make full backups, maybe to a thumb drive. Purpose is to Fully recover back to the last backup.

I would prefer it have a GUI as I don't think I am ready for Terminal (yet). At this point I am not worried if the backup is automatic (day/week/month), or if it is fast. Simple is best for me for now. If something goes sideways (and it will) I would like to wipe out or overwrite my mess and
and get back running rather than trying to figure out what went wrong just to be able to ask for help.

I am definately open to all suggestions & comments. Questions? looking forward to the conversation.

Thank you in advance

Gainer

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G'day Gainer, Welcome to Linux.org

Two types of backup
One....Timeshift. It only backs up system files. .doesnt take care of data and music etc etc.
Its snapshots must be stored on an external drive...also formatted ext4, (same as your main drive)
When you screw up the system...it has no peer. It will save your bacon every time.

Two....full backup...backs up absolutely every damn thing.

Here you will probably be bombarded with choices......every man and his dog has a favourite.

I also have a favourite...with the unlikely name of....Rescuezilla
Why?...because the Restores work. Flawlessly. Saved my hide a couple of times.

Again...you need an external drive (ext4 format) to back up to....just in case the main drive on your pc dies

I keep timeshift and rescuezilla on the same external drive

I limit the number of snapshots that Timeshift takes....otherwise It can turn into a space hog. (simple to do, not a biggie)

Timeshift is most likely already on your ubuntu....type Timeshift into the menu (or whatever it is that ubuntu has)...if it is not there it is simple to install.....or it most definitely will be in the software centre

Rescuezilla....this a matter of making a bootable usb stick. (8 gb is big enough)

You select which drive you are going to backup
You then select where you are going to store that backup
( be careful when doing those first two....be sure you have selected the correct drives)

Click ok and it will back up whatever you have....completely

When finished...verify the backup you have just made
Select Where the backup is stored
Select the actual backup
Allow it to do its thing
Done

FYI. Rescueszilla is based on Clonezilla....the difference is that Rescueszilla has a gui......whereas clonezilla does not.

I like a gui...it allows me to actually see what the hell is happening.

Question: Are you quite happy with Ubuntu 24.04?....no misgivings?
 
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There's the app Timeshift, which is comparable to Windows System Restore (going by what others say, I myself don't have it installed). It is used to backup the system (OS), not your personal files. To backup personal files I suggest to simply use an external drive, and copy and paste. That's what I do.
 
Please be aware... Newbie, to Linux and to this Forum. I have spoken English all my life and Microsoft for almost 50 years. Linux, under 20 days. So, yeah... Newbie.

Fast overview. Got real serious about getting away from Microsoft about a year ago. Did a bunch of YouTubing, and reading. I thought I was ready so a few weeks ago I purchased a MiniPC with Ubuntu 22.xx.x installed. Hooked it all up & booted. First thing it did was update to Ubuntu 24.04.1. No problems. WiFi hooked up, mouse. keyboard and monitor - no error messages. Got sound.

Did a few visual things and also moved the Task bar to the bottom. Before I go any further and make a mess out of my life, I would like to make full backups, maybe to a thumb drive. Purpose is to Fully recover back to the last backup.

I would prefer it have a GUI as I don't think I am ready for Terminal (yet). At this point I am not worried if the backup is automatic (day/week/month), or if it is fast. Simple is best for me for now. If something goes sideways (and it will) I would like to wipe out or overwrite my mess and
and get back running rather than trying to figure out what went wrong just to be able to ask for help.

I am definately open to all suggestions & comments. Questions? looking forward to the conversation.

Thank you in advance

Gainer

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Perhaps have a look here for backup suggestions:
 
@Gainer
I think your drive of 512G is insufficient for backup, you'll probably want secondary HDD or even better external HDD to backup stuff you want manually.

If your drive fails or if Ubuntu doesn't boot your backup on that drive will be useless or hard to access and restore.
 
Question: Are you quite happy with Ubuntu 24.04?....no misgivings?
In all my research - past year - at first I thought (some version) of LinuxMint sounded like it would cover my simple needs. It was my understanding that it was developed over Ubuntu and folks seemed to be satisfied with the GUI. So I bought the MiniPC with Ubuntu withte intentions of moving to a LinuxMint.

Weakness' or strengths I'm on Ubuntu now. Gui OK. So I'm not wanting to add more complexity yet (at least it seems like I would be adding "more steps")

My nature is to chase details before making decissions. I liked what I read about your suggestion of Timeshift and started reading up on it. Here is how easy it is for me to jump down the rabbit hole. It uses ext4 formatting, is a journaling file system for Linux. Termonology is killing me. Well it only took an hour and set that aside as a future read.

So I consentrated on getting Timeshift installed. Since it is not available on my system and I didn't find it on the Snap repository (came installed on the system) off I went on Flatpack, how to install, etc. pros/cons and other folks experience - good and bad... Till I ran into Wayland and that discussion. OMG. I just want to add some backup/restore and move on with a bit of confindence I can explore and recover. I'll stop now before I write a book...
 
@Gainer
I think your drive of 512G is insufficient for backup, you'll probably want secondary HDD or even better external HDD to backup stuff you want manually.

If your drive fails or if Ubuntu doesn't boot your backup on that drive will be useless or hard to access and restore.
OUCH 512GB insuffucent. For the foreseeable future I'm in the learning mode and will not have my user files/data on this machine. Yes,I always do any type of backup/archive off system disk. If I understand Time it will probably be good for a start. I have plenty of 32GB thumb drives and a wad of 1 and 3 TB External drive. Thanks for the oversite and reminder.
 
OUCH 512GB insuffucent. For the foreseeable future I'm in the learning mode
Don't worry about it, if you're not going to download games, films, music videos or bulk material then 512 is more than ample
my desktop [main computer] has an NVMe of 250gb,with a 256 gb plate spinner as storage, I have hundreds of 15mp pictures and nearly as many music tracks [not vids] and out of a total of 506gb I have used: 84.83 GiB, my new to me laptop has a 512 gb SSD, which i will remove at some point and swamp for an NVMe 250 gb to improve the speed [I do not use the laptop for long term storage so I could get away with a 120gb NVMe, but that would be penny-pinching.
 
So I consentrated on getting Timeshift installed. Since it is not available on my system and I didn't find it on the Snap repository (came installed on the system) off I went on Flatpack, how to install, etc. pros/cons and other folks experience - good and bad... Till I ran into Wayland and that discussion. OMG. I just want to add some backup/restore and move on with a bit of confindence I can explore and recover. I'll stop now before I write a book...
Just a suggestion at this point.....with a few facts thrown in.

I know precisely where you are up to.....simply because I went much the same route, myself, around ten years ago.

I started with ubuntu.....and then with some other thing which I cant remember the name of.......and then I had the lightbulb moment,,.....Linux Mint.

Timeshift is already a part of Mint. It is already installed.

Wayland....a lot of noise made about that....it is not really ready yet and there is no need to become embroiled in its crap

Give some serious thought to installing Linux Mint 22 ....it just may simplify your life.
 
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oops...missed a bit...... ext4 format

This is not a biggie.

If it is Linux, it is on that file format.....which is what separates it from windows...windows uses ntfs

There are LOTS of sidelines to what I just said....but that is basically true

If I have a usb and I wish to put any Linux distro on it.....i will format it to ext4. Simple. It works every time. No drama.

(if you want complicated....i have a 2tb external drive. It has two partitions (initially)....the first is formatted ext4....it holds movies, tv shows and all sorts of extraneous crap, as well as Timeshift snapshots. it is almost a junk pile...if I just need to 'put' somehting somewhere while I think of other things....that is where it goes....until 'Ron....(Later On )

The second partition is split into 2 further partitions....the first holds data/documents/pdf's etc etc....they did not come from windows, but some of them are ntfs. The second partition holds rescuezilla backup images....and is formatted ext4. )
That is as complicated as I get.

K.I.S.S.
 
The drive looks like this

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** the 1.0 TB refers only to the first partition
 
I use /usr/bin/tar to make my backups in a bash script that I wrote. I prefer doing it this way because it gives me the fine tuned control over the whole process. I copied that script to make others that backup other parts of the system. Let me know if you want a copy of that script. I use /usr/bin/gzip to compress the tar file and test the zip file before deleting the tar file. You really should consider using a second hard drive for cold storage backups if anything goes wrong with the main hard drive.

Signed,

Matthew Campbell
 
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The drive looks like this...
(looked familiar)
** the 1.0 TB refers only to the first partition
THANK YOU for the encouragement, opinions, comments and facts in your last three posts Huge help especially settling things down a bit. You seem to have some very similar experiences and background.

The other thing I found was the second Forum I have ever been registered to locked me out after three much shorter, on topic posts. On my first post a moderator got a bit snippy about not following the rules. The other two readers (read the whole post) and had no problem with some real friendly help. but alas, the third post got locked out and to find help elsewhere. Turns out to be a good thing for me. Hope everyone can put up with my verbosity till I get a bit further along with a Linux distro.

My original thoughts before starting the process of leaving Microsoft was LinuxMint. It read like it was a good place to start and maybe stay.

I'm not looking to have the 50 year in-depth understanding of anything Linux like I had with Microsoft. My goal is to be 99.5% free of Microsoft by Christmas 2024. Could be 100%. My present to my wife and me.

Experience taught me after thousands of deployments - buy hardware with the OS installed. Saved time and money over the decades. The MiniPC with Ubuntu fit the bill. At least it came installed so I didn't have to chase drivers or try to figure some error out so I could ask a question I knew nothing about. I'd like to get up and running and use the system for a month or more. I need to feel confedient in a Backup/Restore.

Original Goal & Plan ----------------------
Buy MiniPC w/Ubuntu 22.xx.x
Automatically updated to 24.04.1
Make the GUI look friendly - at least "workable"
Modify/Secure FireFox and StartPage search engine.
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All Done to this point. I am using this machine for a lot of Internet/Forum/LibreOffice/Text Editor to get used to the environment. So far/So good.
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My Goal comes to a Branch Point -> Stay with Ubuntu OR move LinuxMint (Cinnamon?). Seems you may have some very convincing points for LinuxMint. Do tell, I am a willing, open book to your experiences and opinions.

Either way I wanted a Backup for full Recovery to this point (before possible LinuxMint) because I will mess up. Once I get going, my intent is success for the goal or push it till it crashes... Recover, start again.

Also, the Hardware & OS System Warrantee is not valid if Ubuntu is changed. (3 year warrantee) So I want to always come back to this point if I have to ship the MiniPC back for the hardware warrentee.

The Windows GUI does not bother me. I rather like most of it and it is very familiar. It's Microsoft methods and policies that is the problem. So a Linux look-alike is OK. So far Ubuntu looks OK also.

It's what I want to do AFTER making a Backup/Restore image.

I am not a gammer. Nothing against gammers/games. Just never interested me. So I do not need a modified OS, special loads, VM's, or heaps of power.

In retirement I want access to the Internet for access to Forums like this, YouTube, eMail, research for DIY Projects, Amazon/Hulu and such. My wife needs Chrome browser for one site she uses a special Extension.

I thought after much reading that a world of LinuxMint, Bottles would be 95% of getting the job done. The 75 to 100 tools/apps I used to make a living with are Portable Apps and I do not need them on Linux. Most of the portable apps that could make the maintenance of Linux easier have a Linux version.

Bottles for two or three Windows Programs that I have had for decades. KeePass, PopPeeper and a Windows only program. Continuing the research I find now that KeePass has a Linux version.

Also, I have read around that PopPeeper in the "right" combinations of Linux, Wine, Bottles and some other magic combination of Repositiories, drivers, FlatPak, etc, PopPeeper may/might/should/could work. I'm NOT a fan of VM's, dual boots or boot from thumb drives. Like games - just never was comfortable with them. So PopPeeper in Bottles would be perfect.

The third Windows only program. After much more reading, I may have to end up on its own MiniPC with Windows. It does not need access to the internet and I only use it a couple of dozen times a year. But it's a must even if I have to keep one Windows machine. (OUCH, I said that).

I have spoken with the developer at length and no plans to port to Linux (or for that matter iOS or any other OS) Sometime after I get settled comfortably in a Linux, they did mention that we could work together to come up with a VM solution that could be marketed. I would probably use a seperate Linux MiniPC for that. That's a different story completely.

A year ago as I was getting serious about the change to Linux I got rid of MSOffice/365 and went fully to LibreOffice and Thunderbird. LibreOffice is really good for my use - documents, PDF's and crazy spreadsheets. Visacalc 1.0, from 1977? till now, I just cannot get enough spreadsheeting - and LibreCalc is really better than Microsoft Office and not because it is free, which is a bonus.

Thunderbird... not so much. Cannot seem to get comfortable. PopPeeper handles 135 email accounts that I monitor. In Thunderbird, handling 10 eMail accounts takes more effort. So I'm hoping I can find a solution without a VM and maybe Bottles

So that's the Goal. Stick to the Goal. Plans can and are allowed to change to keep the Goal.

For a bit more context, my computer habits and basic design for workstations for myself and clients.

In Windows, I use Drive C:\ for OS and installed programs (which I have\had less than 8) only. The other major difference is the HOSTS file is North of three quarters of a million entries.

Drive C:\ has no user data/files stored in the Windows Default User Profile. Drive C:\ is on a 10 step automated update & maintenance every 24 hours or less if needed. The files and data for each users (profile) is stored on individual hard drives. The past couple of years the drives have been moved outside the box to external drives.

Drive C:\ is named "OS_Only"

The next drive is designated as the "Working Drive" Typically Drive E:

Drive F: is a Mirror of the "Working Drive".

Drive G: is a (local) Archive drive.

Typically there is a NAS for local gathering of Mirrors and Archives for On-Site backups. The NAS drive is backedup to an off-site location outside of the immediate disaster area.

Personally, my wife and I have TB's of data that will never be seen by our new Linux machines. Other than the pictures of our families, kids, grandkids and great grandkids we have talked about dumping the rest about the same time we get free of Microsoft.

I am excited about getting past the Backup/Restore so I can push Ubuntu or LinuxMint past their limits, learn from my mistakes (and protect my warrentee). Maybe I should order another MiniPC exactly the same and "double the fun"

Thank you for letting me blab on - hope you made it this far and still want to talk.


Gainer
 
I'll answer this one separately from the rest: Pop Peeper
Make a note of this site:


The site takes a bit of getting used to.....be sure to click on Linux out of the many choices....that will give oyu Linux alternatives to whatever you are looking for.

It suggested Mailnag ....(and others)
The screenshot below is from Linux mint Software Manager. I have no idea if it is available via Ubuntu

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The homepage link is : (you can download and install from here......the installation stuff for Ubuntu etc is down the bottom of the page. NOTE: when you see a download for Ubuntu or Debian this generally means that it is also suited to Linux Mint.....and the reverse also applies. (This is because Ubuntu and Linux Mint are both based on Debian)
















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We're certainly glad to have you here with us. And personally I don't mind your verbosity at all. I ran NDOS for a while, along with Linux, and I don't remember how many drives I had and each had its own purpose. One was for common stuff. One was for Linux backups. One was for games. One was for graphics. Oh the list goes on. I can't even stand to use anything from microsoft anymore.

Don't be afraid to explore the bash shell in an xterm. Using the command line can really unlock the power of Linux. XTerm is a terminal app in your graphical interface. You might add a file ~/.Xresources that has these lines:

Code:
xterm*faceName: Terminus
xterm*faceSize: 18
xterm*faceSize1: 8
xterm*faceSize2: 10
xterm*faceSize3: 12
xterm*faceSize4: 14
xterm*faceSize5: 16
xterm*faceSize6: 18
xterm*geometry: 101x27
xterm*rightScrollBar: true
xterm*saveLines: 1024
xterm*scrollBar: true
xterm*scrollTtyOutput: false
xterm*selectToClipboard: true
xterm*Background: black
xterm*Foreground: white

Then log out and back in as your user that you normally use to get the changes to take effect. Then open up an XTerm and maximize it. You might use stty -a to see how many lines and columns you have in that new terminal window. Hopefully your /usr/bin/ls will be colorful which can really help.

Remember, we're all here to help you on your journey in Linux so don't be afraid to ask for help along the way.

Signed,

Matthew Campbell
 
The plan for increased font sizes didn;t work out....you can see from this I dont use Libre Office very often

It was a good idea at the time....I have just enlkarged the fonts....I think I got all of it.


THANK YOU for the encouragement, opinions, comments and facts in your last three posts Huge help especially settling things down a bit. You seem to have some very similar experiences and background.

No problem. My answers/comments will be in this font/size throughout so they can be easily read.

The other thing I found was the second Forum I have ever been registered to locked me out after three much shorter, on topic posts. On my first post a moderator got a bit snippy about not following the rules. The other two readers (read the whole post) and had no problem with some real friendly help. but alas, the third post got locked out and to find help elsewhere. Turns out to be a good thing for me. Hope everyone can put up with my verbosity till I get a bit further along with a Linux distro.

Not everywhere has the patience you will encounter here

My original thoughts before starting the process of leaving Microsoft was LinuxMint. It read like it was a good place to start and maybe stay.

That was a good read !


I'm not looking to have the 50 year in-depth understanding of anything Linux like I had with Microsoft. My goal is to be 99.5% free of Microsoft by Christmas 2024. Could be 100%. My present to my wife and me.



Merry Christmas !

Experience taught me after thousands of deployments - buy hardware with the OS installed. Saved time and money over the decades. The MiniPC with Ubuntu fit the bill. At least it came installed so I didn't have to chase drivers or try to figure some error out so I could ask a question I knew nothing about. I'd like to get up and running and use the system for a month or more. I need to feel confident in a Backup/Restore.

Installing an alternative is fairly simple. Drivers are ctaered for in the kernel (most of the time)

An alternative can be “road tested’ without Installing.

It involves ‘attaching’ an .iso file to a usb (simple)….and then booting the pc to that usb stick. The result is a “LIVE” version.

You can do anything you like with it...it will NOT affect the main system.

As soon as you pull the usb out, it is gone and so are any changes you made to it.




Original Goal & Plan ----------------------
Buy MiniPC w/Ubuntu 22.xx.x
Automatically updated to 24.04.1
Make the GUI look friendly - at least "workable"
Modify/Secure FireFox and StartPage search engine.

Firefox….have a look in Firefox add ons for a PopPeeper extension
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All Done to this point. I am using this machine for a lot of Internet/Forum/LibreOffice/Text Editor to get used to the environment. So far/So good.

Good to here...progress
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My Goal comes to a Branch Point -> Stay with Ubuntu OR move LinuxMint (Cinnamon?). Seems you may have some very convincing points for LinuxMint. Do tell, I am a willing, open book to your experiences and opinions.

I really cannot help you much there…..it is like driving a car…...I may love it, you may hate it….tis a personal choice.

My suggestion above…..stick LM22 on a usb stick and take LM22, Cinnamon for a ride.


Either way I wanted a Backup for full Recovery to this point (before possible LinuxMint) because I will mess up. Once I get going, my intent is success for the goal or push it till it crashes... Recover, start again.

Backup for full recovery(possibly where the pc will not boot)..Rescuezilla

…..for just a bit of a screw up…..but you cannot fix it…...Timeshift. Note that Timeshift will also provide a recovery even when the machine will not boot. To do this you need the OS on a usb stick (it is put on the usb via Balena Etcher….more about that later)


Also, the Hardware & OS System Warrantee is not valid if Ubuntu is changed. (3 year warrantee) So I want to always come back to this point if I have to ship the MiniPC back for the hardware warrentee.
That warranty is certainly restrictive

I can understand that. If it were me I would still swap over…...I flew by the seat of my pants for a number of years….but that’s me !...Again, it is a personal choice.




The Windows GUI does not bother me. I rather like most of it and it is very familiar. It's Microsoft methods and policies that is the problem. So a Linux look-alike is OK. So far Ubuntu looks OK also.
ok
It's what I want to do AFTER making a Backup/Restore image.

In other words you are treading carefully with Ubuntu….dont want to break it…..more than understandable…..all new users show great care….bit like driving a new car, yu don’t wish to put a ding in it in the first drive !



I am not a gammer. Nothing against gammers/games. Just never interested me. So I do not need a modified OS, special loads, VM's, or heaps of power.



The specs tell me it has 16GB of ram, and a 4 core processor. It will not be a slouch.

In retirement I want access to the Internet for access to Forums like this, YouTube, eMail, research for DIY Projects, Amazon/Hulu and such. My wife needs Chrome browser for one site she uses a special Extension.

Your wife is a solitaire player?…..just a guess.

I thought after much reading that a world of LinuxMint, Bottles would be 95% of getting the job done. The 75 to 100 tools/apps I used to make a living with are Portable Apps and I do not need them on Linux. Most of the portable apps that could make the maintenance of Linux easier have a Linux version.



See my previous post re alternatives

Bottles for two or three Windows Programs that I have had for decades. KeePass, PopPeeper and a Windows only program. Continuing the research I find now that KeePass has a Linux version.

Keepass...Linux version...correct

Also, I have read around that PopPeeper in the "right" combinations of Linux, Wine, Bottles and some other magic combination of Repositiories, drivers, FlatPak, etc, PopPeeper may/might/should/could work. I'm NOT a fan of VM's, dual boots or boot from thumb drives. Like games - just never was comfortable with them. So PopPeeper in Bottles would be perfect.

See previous post re Alternatives
Wine or bottles may help with poppeeper....I am not a fan of either, therefore cannot help there


The third Windows only program. After much more reading, I may have to end up on its own MiniPC with Windows. It does not need access to the internet and I only use it a couple of dozen times a year. But it's a must even if I have to keep one Windows machine. (OUCH, I said that).

LOL….you are forgiven !

I have spoken with the developer at length and no plans to port to Linux (or for that matter iOS or any other OS) Sometime after I get settled comfortably in a Linux, they did mention that we could work together to come up with a VM solution that could be marketed. I would probably use a seperate Linux MiniPC for that. That's a different story completely. Got it.

A year ago as I was getting serious about the change to Linux I got rid of MSOffice/365 and went fully to LibreOffice and Thunderbird. LibreOffice is really good for my use - documents, PDF's and crazy spreadsheets. Visacalc 1.0, from 1977? till now, I just cannot get enough spreadsheeting - and LibreCalc is really better than Microsoft Office and not because it is free, which is a bonus.

Amen….Libre office is damn good....(except when it is me using it)

Thunderbird... not so much. Cannot seem to get comfortable. PopPeeper handles 135 email accounts that I monitor. In Thunderbird, handling 10 eMail accounts takes more effort. So I'm hoping I can find a solution without a VM and maybe Bottles
I use Thunderbird exclusively.....but then I dont have a mutitude of accounts to look after.....just two

So that's the Goal. Stick to the Goal. Plans can and are allowed to change to keep the Goal.

A tick for that….fluid planning can pay dividends

For a bit more context, my computer habits and basic design for workstations for myself and clients.

In Windows, I use Drive C:\ for OS and installed programs (which I have\had less than 8) only. The other major difference is the HOSTS file is North of three quarters of a million entries.

LOL....get used to a completely different system !....Life is about to become far more relaxed !

Drive C:\ has no user data/files stored in the Windows Default User Profile. Drive C:\ is on a 10 step automated update & maintenance every 24 hours or less if needed. The files and data for each users (profile) is stored on individual hard drives. The past couple of years the drives have been moved outside the box to external drives.

Drive C:\ is named "OS_Only"

The next drive is designated as the "Working Drive" Typically Drive E:

Drive F: is a Mirror of the "Working Drive".

Drive G: is a (local) Archive drive.

Typically there is a NAS for local gathering of Mirrors and Archives for On-Site backups. The NAS drive is backed up to an off-site location outside of the immediate disaster area.

Personally, my wife and I have TB's of data that will never be seen by our new Linux machines. Other than the pictures of our families, kids, grandkids and great grandkids we have talked about dumping the rest about the same time we get free of Microsoft.

Been there, done that

I am excited about getting past the Backup/Restore so I can push Ubuntu or LinuxMint past their limits, learn from my mistakes (and protect my warrentee). Maybe I should order another MiniPC exactly the same and "double the fun"



If you can afford to do that, why not?….does it make any sense to have your wife on one and you on the other ?

Thank you for letting me blab on - hope you made it this far and still want to talk.

Most of the people who hang around here are good talkers…….any seriously cranky misfits dont usually last very long.

My second nickname is ‘havachat’

Imagine that !

More about 'the change'...it can be a frightening experience.....all that work has generated habits which are not easily changed and even harder to let go of.
It is more about mindset than anything else......about willingness to let go....being sufficiently objective and "bloody minded" to effect the changes that eventually must happen

I made my 'changes' in one fell swoop. I was like a duck out of water for at least a month after.

I made up ground by establishing new habits. One of those was Linux. I tried and tried and absolutely crashed and conquered Linux Mint until the damn thing near bled.......but eventually I got it....the penny(s) dropped.....and all was well

I did find myself limiting my reading. Even now I look for particular writers/outlets thta I have found to be accurate, simple

One of them is : https://www.fosslinux.com/120418/your-ultimate-guide-to-the-etc-hosts-file-in-linux.htm

Also : https://linuxconfig.org/?s=Linux+Mint

For the most part they print good stuff.
 
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You said... "So I can push Ubuntu or LinuxMint past their limits, learn from my mistakes"

What does that mean to you.....do you have any idea at this stage what that might encompass "
 
If by some chance, you were to seriously destroy the Ubuntu OS that is currently on the pc...before you got a chance to back it up etc etc.......what would the procedure as far as the people you bought it from and the warranty they cover it with?

does that warranty only cover the pc itself/hardware and the like, or does it cover a reinstall of the software/os as well ?

Just curious.
 
I'll answer this one separately from the rest: Pop Peeper
Make a note of this site:
Yes, thank you for the link. I explored AlternativeTo and the Linux alternatives to Pop Peeper. All but one are Google products which not for me.

One of the main features of Pop Peeper is that is an email notifyer rather than downloading emails like Thunderbird. which means to me the emails do not land on my hardware unless I choose to bring them in.

Mailnag seems to be tagged as an email-notifyer but is not clear to me. Going to set email aside until I get Backup/Restore down to a fine science.
 

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