The Ubuntu .iso file size...



An amusing thing is that I recall a time when 4.7 GB was an insane amount of space.

early 90s first computer - when I got a 2nd hdd, i never thought I'd need more than 540mb (or whatever it was)... ah, things were simpler then.

when I got my first 2tb drive I thought it would take forever to fill up, but... well, time makes fools of us all ;)
 
I recall when 500G was a lot but data bloat is almost like software bloat.
And I'm collecting games and various stuff lately which take lots of gigabytes.

same. most of my storage is for media - movies, music, games, etc. it sure doesnt help that everything has to be 8k these days. I personally cant tell the difference between a 2k image and an 8k image other than one takes up a lot more disk space.
 
An amusing thing is that I recall a time when 4.7 GB was an insane amount of space. People thought we'd never need bigger storage than that but those of us who had been around for a while knew that this era too would come to an end.
And now it's just another coaster. :)

I remember when I got my first 4 GB hard disk and thought, "How the hell am I going to fill this thing up?" and, "How the hell am i going to back this thing up?" (I eventually got a second such drive for that purpose. And now here am I with a very similar (at the macro level) setup - but a thousand times bigger - I recently put my second 4 TB drive into operation, mostly because I've been archiving everything (yes, even what remains of the contents of those 4 GB drives) onto the modern behemoths. It'd suck to get everything consolidated and then have the disk crap out.
 
I recently put my second 4 TB drive into operation, mostly because I've been archiving everything (yes, even what remains of the contents of those 4 GB drives) onto the modern behemoths. It'd suck to get everything consolidated and then have the disk crap out.
Yeah that would suck for sure.

I have a 1 TB backup drive although I back it up with several USB flash drives.

Some stuff the family will get whether they want it or not goes on DVD format.

I always backup stuff multiple times on different format that way if one craps out I have others.
 
Ubuntu 2024 LTS is 6.3 GB.
Full Rocky or RHEL dvd is 13G, but they have other installation media as wel other than the dvd which would be comparable to net install I think.
 
Do they have an "unlimited" plan ?

They have various bandwidth rates, not monthly limits. The satellite company has bandwidth limits and then they slow you down. They've changed that and no longer slow it down as much. I suspect they're worried that fiber in rural areas and Starlink are going to make them obsolete.

I'll probably just get the 500 MB/sec service, though I can get 1 GB/sec service - and higher than that (undefined in the literature) if I'm a business. I don't really need that much bandwidth. I can operate just fine with 15 MB/sec service. Having the 500 MB/sec service will be more than I need and leave plenty of overhead.

I suspect I'll consume a ton of data for those first few months. I'll then tire of it. I already have thousands of media files, from movies to music. I do sometimes use the music files to make playlists for my drives but I haven't watched a stored movie in quite a while.

But, with a brand new connection with a ton of speed... Yeah, I'm likely to download all sorts of stupid stuff when I first get the service.

For perspective, when I downloaded the Ubuntu .iso file it would have taken about 6 hours. It disconnected a few times and I was lucky that their server supports the resume function, else I'd have had to restart the download. I consider this to be bandwidth impoverished.

I'm not sure what happened to the cell tower but I don't get a good signal and it constantly drops out. I sent them a support request and they said the tower was working normally. During the last major outage, the tower's backup battery kept it up and running for only about 30 minutes. It used to stay up and running for many hours. So, something is broken and neglected.
 
Probably a dumb question, but will these work in a "standard" DVD drive?
Not a dumb question at all.
Yes they will work in a standard DVD drive.
 
Full Rocky or RHEL dvd is 13G, but they have other installation media as wel other than the dvd which would be comparable to net install I think.

I just checked out RH's site and it's a darned mess. The only direct download I could find was a 1 GB boot image.

It appears that they want me to build my image (using their portal and compute resources), so I'm poking at that.
 
So, something is broken and neglected.
The backup battery, by the sound of that

Over time, our habits change. They change because instead of thinking about printing that pdf that contains 'important' info and we must not lose track of it.....we now think in terms of.."oh, that drive has 100GB (or whatever) of free space....I'll put it on there"....and so it goes. Shortly after we upgrade the 500GB storage to a couple of TB....in some instances we also print the really important stuff...(which is a good habit)......we now have the ability to store movies, shows, data of all kinds....we learn how to split the huge space up into different formats (partitions) and store exe crap on the ntfs part and everything else on the ext4 part.....and so it goes. And grows. And grows !

Until....we have enormous drives containing all the useless information you could possibly think of.
Only the hard minded among us will take to that storage with a scalpel, and rid ourselves of the non necessary.
Regardless of that, we have introduced a new source of worry into our existences. Is the stuff on xy drive, safe....secure....will that drive fail....maybe I'd better get another drive and back it up to that......

.....and samsung and lg and whoever, rub their hands together.

Ok, present day, and you have 10TB of stored "stuff"....whether it be on drive or cd.....do you ever have a nightmare that the inheritors of what is yours will say 'screw sorting through all this crap"....and chuck it ?
 
The backup battery, by the sound of that

Yeah, that and who knows? I went from a solid connection to a continually disrupted connection and my throughput dropped to the 'nearly unuasable' state. I suppose they could just be mad that I used that 'unlimited' thing to my advantage. I'd churn through 500+ GB a month.

do you ever have a nightmare that the inheritors of what is yours will say 'screw sorting through all this crap"....and chuck it ?

Not at all. I hope they do, rather than wade through it. My only digital request is that they go online to visit a few sites to let people know that I'm dead. I'm not sure that they'll do so, but I'm hopeful. I suppose that you can consider me dead if I'm gone for more than a month.

I'm not much of a data horder. In fact, I plan on deleting a bunch of the above mentioned movies in short order. I'm obviously not using them for anything. I don't really need the space, but I might as well get rid of the digital clutter.
 
I just checked out RH's site and it's a darned mess. The only direct download I could find was a 1 GB boot image.

I agree, it's harder to find stuff now. But the regular iso's are still there.

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But the regular iso's are still there.

I don't see the workstation .iso, only the server. It's 1 GB in size, there about. I see VM images and the like.
 
I suppose they could just be mad that I used that 'unlimited' thing to my advantage. I'd churn through 500+ GB a month.

if I had to deal with service as unreliable as you describe I'd absolutely do that and then if the connection's bandwidth dropped I'd cancel the service to switch to starlink. they're right to be worried - their business model is outmoded.
 
switch to starlink

Try as I might, I put my address in and they say they don't service my area.

I should just buy one of their portable units and use that - but it makes no sense to do so when fiber will be here soon.

I'm 90% confident that I'll have fiber within the limits of my patience. I'm not 100% there, but I'm close.

I can be pretty patient and being bandwidth impoverished isn't really new. I remember having an ISDN line that went to my office and that was insanely quick when compared with the other options. When we had a T3 installed, it was downright awesome.
 
The Mint ISO is nearly 3GB now but I always burn it to a Flash Drive or drag it in to Ventoy...haven't used DVDs for years.

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Dragging the .iso to my dedicated ventoy usb stick is sooooo hard....I swear I may have to file my fingernails again....

:rolleyes:
 
Dragging the .iso to my dedicated ventoy usb stick is sooooo hard....I swear I may have to file my fingernails again....

:rolleyes:

That's pretty much my point, really. Optical media is running out of life. Files are starting to be too large for regular optical media. First the .iso images were bigger than CDs and next they'll be bigger than DVDs (some already are).

If you're anything like me, you haven't used optical media in quite a while.

I suppose they'd still be useful for file backups. You can fit an older game or two on a DVD and you can fit a bunch of really old games on DVD. I just took a quick look and you can fit all of the NES games and SNES games (including other languages) on a regular DVD.

So, I suppose some folks might find them useful still. They are still selling blanks, after all. (I do not know if they're still making new blanks.)
 


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