Using my Garmin Express

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Erik Groothuijzen

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Just as I get things working properly with Linux MX on my Lenovo W530, another problem crops up. I suddenly realised that I should update my Garmin SmartDrive 50 for a change, and? No support for Linux. Tried what I could to install Wine with the manual, through Synaptic Package Manager and a YouTube step by step tutorial, but no luck. Any suggestions on what else I could use with Linux MX to utilise Garmin Express? My unit is the older version of Garmin and can only be updated through Garmin Express on a USB coupled computer. I could do it on the other Windows machine, but the idea is to eventually take that one to Linux as well once I get all the bugs out of the way.
 


your garmin is 32 bit, you need to add i386 architecture to your Linux distribution [for Debian based distros' from the terminal sudo dpkg add-architecture i386] this should be done before you install wine, then you should be able to install the garmin tools to wine.
 
That was one of the steps I did when following the tutorials. At the end I got a message that told me that the winehqkey could not be found. This was the terminal message
Erik@Erik:~
$ sudo wget -O /etc/apt/keyrings/winehq-archive.key https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/winehqkey
--2024-07-21 13:13:54-- https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/winehqkey
Resolving dl.winehq.org (dl.winehq.org)... 151.101.2.217, 151.101.66.217, 151.101.130.217, ...
Connecting to dl.winehq.org (dl.winehq.org)|151.101.2.217|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2024-07-21 13:13:54 ERROR 404: Not Found.

My Garmin Express worked fine on my 64bit Windows 10 OS.


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Erik Groothuijzen said:
My Garmin Express worked fine on my 64bit Windows 10 OS.
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That was because of backwards compatibility in Windows systems,
did you install wine from your distribution repositories [as you should] or did you install from Wine HQ web site?
 
Brickwizard said:
That was because of backwards compatibility in Windows systems,
did you install wine from your distribution repositories [as you should] or did you install from Wine HQ web site?
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I tried the Synaptic Package Manager, as I was told I should :), but running wine, absolutely nothing happens. Then I tried terminal through a YouTube step by step tutorial and ran into some syntax problems due to bad eyesight and missing a full stop in some places. Fixed that and now get:
1 package can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see it.
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'contrib/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'contrib/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'contrib/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'https://ftp.saix.net/pub/linux/distributions/mxlinux/mx/repo bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'https://ftp.saix.net/pub/linux/distributions/mxlinux/mx/repo bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
So now am stuck. Another supporter sugesste accessing my Garmin Express from a virtualbox, or openmapchest. Both new to me but I will investigate. But there never seems to be an easy solution. Fortunately I have lots of time.........
 
Assuming you have installed sudo dpkg add-architecture i386

Make sure you uninstall any wine apps you have installed, then in order run from the terminal.

Sudo apt update && sudo apt install wine64 wine32
then
sudo apt install winetricks
then
sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt update
you should now be able to download and install the Garmin programs to wine

download the latest garman for windows from https://download.garmin.com/omt/express/GarminExpress.exe
 
Brickwizard said:
Assuming you have installed sudo dpkg add-architecture i386

Make sure you uninstall any wine apps you have installed, then in order run from the terminal.

Sudo apt update && sudo apt install wine64 wine32
then
sudo apt install winetricks
then
sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt update
you should now be able to download and install the Garmin programs to wine

download the latest garman for windows from https://download.garmin.com/omt/express/GarminExpress.exe
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Thanks once again for the assistance
The install in terminal went fine until the last command to upgrade and update. In the end it states:
All packages are up to date.
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'contrib/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'contrib/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'https://ftp.saix.net/pub/linux/distributions/mxlinux/mx/repo bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'https://ftp.saix.net/pub/linux/distributions/mxlinux/mx/repo bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'contrib/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'

Unfortunately the run wine command in the menu box does nothing.
 
Erik Groothuijzen said:
Thanks once again for the assistance
The install in terminal went fine until the last command to upgrade and update. In the end it states:
All packages are up to date.
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'contrib/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'contrib/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'https://ftp.saix.net/pub/linux/distributions/mxlinux/mx/repo bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'https://ftp.saix.net/pub/linux/distributions/mxlinux/mx/repo bookworm InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'main/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'contrib/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'
N: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/binary-i368/Packages' as repository 'http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security InRelease' doesn't support architecture 'i368'

Unfortunately the run wine command in the menu box does nothing.
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The dpkg command brings the follow message
Erik@Erik:~
$ sudo dpkg add architecture i386
[sudo] password for Erik:
dpkg: error: need an action option
 
Well i have no idea why it's not working for you, all my Debian based distros are Bookworm.

my final suggestion would be try running sudo dpkg --configure -a and then try again
 
Brickwizard said:
Well i have no idea why it's not working for you, all my Debian based distros are Bookworm.

my final suggestion would be try running sudo dpkg --configure -a and then try again
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I have literally tried everything now to no avail. Looking at my Synaptic Package manager it shows that what is installed is wine, winetricks, wine64 and wine32:i368. It looks like dual boot with Windows 10 is the only option.
 
Erik Groothuijzen said:
I have literally tried everything now to no avail. Looking at my Synaptic Package manager it shows that what is installed is wine, winetricks, wine64 and wine32:i368. It looks like dual boot with Windows 10 is the only option.
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Maybe starting afresh with Mint MX and do a complete re-installation? I mean my frigging around, making mistakes et all cannot do the operating system much good? Maybe another distro? I do not want to give up on Linux!
 
Erik Groothuijzen said:
I have literally tried everything now to no avail. Looking at my Synaptic Package manager it shows that what is installed is wine, winetricks, wine64 and wine32:i368. It looks like dual boot with Windows 10 is the only option.
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try.. go to the garmin download folder, right click., click on open with, then other applications, then scroll right down to wine installer click on to highlight then enter

[it worked for me] after i downloaded the Garmin for windows application , this morning.[i could not test it any further as i dont have a garmin sat nave [i dont have any sat navs IMO they are anoying at best and dangerous]
 
Thanks for that, but the only application that comes up for opening is winetricks, and nothing happens when I click on it. I even went to Garmin and downloaded the latest one in case my backup copy was corrupt.
I do not disagree with the dangers of sat navs, but I mainly use it on routes I know to warn of possible speed traps and progress time and distance wise. It also helps when you know your country and or area to stay away from.
 
Erik Groothuijzen said:
It also helps when you know your country and or area to stay away from.
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I can only agree with you, in my country , for many years now they have not taught national geography or map reading, so its not surprising when traffic gets diverted most people will follow their nav, and it will bring them back to point the deviation started, or they ignore the nav and get totally lost,
Erik Groothuijzen said:
opening is winetricks
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you did double-click [or right click and select open] !
 
Brickwizard said:
I can only agree with you, in my country , for many years now they have not taught national geography or map reading, so its not surprising when traffic gets diverted most people will follow their nav, and it will bring them back to point the deviation started, or they ignore the nav and get totally lost,



you did double-click [or right click and select open] !
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I have now done a complete re-install from the ISO image on a USB flash drive. Go to the bottom left and bring up the menu. Type in "wine", option "run wine" comes up, click on it and nothing happens. Remove all wine installations via Package Manager and reinstalled it via Terminal as per your commands as advised. Same story
 
Brickwizard said:
I can only agree with you, in my country , for many years now they have not taught national geography or map reading, so its not surprising when traffic gets diverted most people will follow their nav, and it will bring them back to point the deviation started, or they ignore the nav and get totally lost,



you did double-click [or right click and select open] !
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Also downloaded the latest Garmin express .exe files for Windows from the Garmin website. Click on it, it installs. Try to run it, nothing happens. Click on it again, get the message, "Garmin Express already installed" on the Garmin UI. Press "Launch Garmin Express" and it all disappears.
 
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