Which distro for me? (I know there are gazillions out there...)

[Condobloke]

I have found that in MX, it also has Synaptic Package Manager (same as linux Mint)

Tyoe in ;synaptic package manager......there should be a search icon over on the right hand side....

open it and type in 'bleachbit' ...hit enter

a list will come up...you should see bleachbit with a small green coloured box beside it.....that green box indicate it is installed.... right click on the line and select mark for complete removal
Then, up above just below file, edit package etc...there should be a small icon with the word apply under it......click on that, confirm that is what you wish to do .....it will remove bleachbit properly......and you are good to go.

WHile you are there type in the other apps you deleted....see if you get a result.

 

[Goatmilk]

Thank you, I've removed it and the small formerly green coloured box is now a blank box with a tiny yellow star in it.

Looked up Pale Moon and found the same blank box with yellow star, so it seems to be deleted as well. Couldn't find anything for 'kcmshell' or 'kcm_trash', but maybe it's just some sort of recycle bin where some of the Palemoon stuff ended up. I don't know.

But when I right click on the Whiskers Menu to 'edit applications' - that is the menu editor "MenuLibre" - it still shows that yellow warning bar about 'Invalid desktop files'.

(Gah, reminds me of the day I shot down a freshly installed Windows because I figured that services I didn't know surely were something I wouldn't need...)

Is Synaptic Package Manager the adult version of MX Package Installer? Better or the same? I've picked the MX Package Installer in the beginning because it looked easier to me, and it distinguishes between popular applications, enabled repos, mx test repos, Debian backports and flatpacks. Not that I'd know what any of these are exactly, but at least it gives me a clue something like that exists.

So the MX Package Installer was were I installed and deleted Palemoon before.

 

[f33dm3bits]

I just downloaded Bleachbit for Debian 12,

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easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.com

 

[Condobloke]

a blank box with a tiny yellow star in it.

That yellow star has me baffled. I think it means it is supported by Debian

Click on edit and then reload package info. ( not for any particular reason.....just to reload the whole thing....then click on edit again, and then 'fix broken packages'

Synaptic vs MX package installer......eeenie meenie mini mo......take your pick...does not matter

If I want to completely eradicate an app....I use synaptic.....right click on the app and select mark for Complete removal

This similar to using the 'purge' command in terminal::

sudo apt purge package name

 

[Condobloke]

The Synaptic Package Manager in Linux [A Complete Guide] - LinuxSimply

In this article, I showed the elements and features of the synaptic package manager. I hope that the user will be able to use it properly.

linuxsimply.com

 

[Goatmilk]

The package managers found nothing, but sudo apt purge palemoon brought up a lot of stuff that was 'automatically installed and no longer required'

It says to do 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.

Can I do that? Wouldn't I need to specify what to remove in that command?

Asking for someone who an hour ago accidently removed all her noto scripts or whatever...
(but luckily got them back)

 

[Condobloke]

sudo apt autoremove

Yes.

Just ran it on mine....result below

brian@brian-desktop:~$ sudo apt autoremove
[sudo] password for brian:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
gconf-service gconf-service-backend gconf2 gconf2-common libgconf-2-4
libgdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0-0 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0
0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 7 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
After this operation, 8,851 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
(Reading database ... 434999 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing gconf2 (3.2.6-7ubuntu2) ...
Removing libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:amd64 (2.40.2-2build4) ...
Removing libgdk-pixbuf-xlib-2.0-0:amd64 (2.40.2-2build4) ...
Removing gconf-service-backend (3.2.6-7ubuntu2) ...
Removing gconf-service (3.2.6-7ubuntu2) ...
Removing libgconf-2-4:amd64 (3.2.6-7ubuntu2) ...
Removing gconf2-common (3.2.6-7ubuntu2) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.10.2-1) ...
Processing triggers for sgml-base (1.30) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.35-0ubuntu3.8) ...
brian@brian-desktop:~$

Easy and perfectly done.

 

[Condobloke]

no....you dont need to specify....Linux Knows.

(spooky huh ?)

 

[Goatmilk]

no....you dont need to specify....Linux Knows.

(spooky huh ?)

Aaaahhh!

 

[Goatmilk]

Worked and the first two parsing errors are gone.

But now there's a new one:

/homer/xxx/.local/share/applications/userapp-Pale Moon-ACURR2.desktop
Exec program '/usr/lib/palemoon/palemoon %u' has not been found in the PATH

Found this site which explains a bit about parse errors (I didn't even know what that was supposed to be) and recommends debugging.

Parse Error: What It Is and How to Fix It | CitizenSide

Learn about parse errors in programming and how to fix them. Understand common causes and solutions to overcome this frustrating issue in your code.

citizenside.com

But I wouldn't know where to start

 

[Condobloke]

A few commands which may come in handy.

Copy and paste them for accuracy

inxi -Fxxzr ......these two will give you info re your pc etc etc etc

inxi -Fxxxrz

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sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove -y && sudo apt clean -y

.....this one will update, upgrade and auto remove cruft and auto clean

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sudo du -sh /var/cache/apt ....this checks cache size
sudo apt-get clean ....this cleans it completely
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Sudo apt-get auto remove........you have already run this......it gets rid of packages that are no longer required and also cleans out old kernels
(can also be written as sudo apt autoremove)
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sudo apt-get clean cleans out the cache
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or, to also clean the Thumbnail cache
rm -rf ~/.cache/thumbnails/*
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Clear the updates cache…
Launch Synaptic Package Manager.

Panel of Synaptic: Settings - Preferences – Files

Select: Delete downloaded packages after installation

Press the button: Delete Cached Package Files

Then click on Apply

 

[Goatmilk]

Heureka!!

It's gone!

Found the line in Tuna Commander and simply deleted it!

Gotta be more careful with installing anything. Or look for a Shadow Defender

 

[Condobloke]

/homer/xxx/.local/share/applications/userapp-Pale Moon-ACURR2.desktop
Exec program '/usr/lib/palemoon/palemoon %u' has not been found in the PATH

methinks it just cannot find it. I would not worry

EDIT TO ADD:....well done !

 

[Condobloke]

Care in installing pays off.....you are new to the game. You will know what to look for soon.

Mistakes are good......you rarely (if ever) forget them

My forts mistake back in 2013/2014 was wiping the entire OS. I have not forgotten

 

[Goatmilk]

And now for something completely different... I've happily installed a fancy screensaver - Helios - but watched the Conky thingy. The temperature of the laptop usually is about 35 to 40 C, but with the screensaver running for a while, it climbs up to 61 C.

A reason to worry?

 

[Condobloke]

well...its not "saving" much is it...I dont use a screensaver...at least not a downloaded one

It has to be using some cpu to make it climb that high.

on LM21.3 if I type screensaver into the menu, it shows the screensaver which is part of the system...it cuts on after aroung 10 - 15 minutes of inactivity (I set the time taken)....and just displays the daye and a clock that move from one monitor to the other....until I move the mouse......then it is back in action
I have no idea if MX has a built in screensaver

At 61C it is probably not up to its max temp...but it would not to have any apps running the background at the same time......

 

[Condobloke]

To save me looking....did you post the error message re parsing ?

 

[Goatmilk]

It has, but it looks like something from 3.11 days... I actually looked for something cloudy, or the old star field simulation that ran on Win98, but found the Helios thingy instead. It comes with more screensavers to choose from, but they're so utterly garish colors they cause eye cancer. And no option to dim the colors.

Anyhow, I don't like the high temps. I'd rather use the stove to fry an egg.

And yet another question - I'm looking at MenuLibre and found infos on it in the net, and saw on the website that the latest version (from August 2023) is MenuLibre 2.3.2

The Synaptic Package Manager has MenuLibre installed at 2.2.2-2 and says this is the latest version.

Should I stick with it? And yes, I want my own menus... probably not the most important thing when learning a new system, but.... oh well.

 

[Goatmilk]

To save me looking....did you post the error message re parsing ?

Yep.
/homer/xxx/.local/share/applications/userapp-Pale Moon-ACURR2.desktop
Exec program '/usr/lib/palemoon/palemoon %u' has not been found in the PATH

 

[Goatmilk]

A question about a possible new computer - not sure if I shouldn't have made a new thread.

I do have a HP Compaq Elite 8300 CMT, with i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz, 3201 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processors and a NVidia Geforce GTX 1050 grahic card.
It has 4 gb of RAM and runs Windows 7 32bit on a 1 tb hdd.
It's a nice machine that never made any trouble, but it is at least ten years old.

I'm looking at a used/refurbished computer now:
A HP Z220 Workstation PC Intel Core i7 3rd Gen. with 24GB of RAM, a 256GB SSD and a NVIDIA Quadro 410.

It will be used to run MX Linux 64bit, with a Virtual Box installation of Windows 7 for the work programs. I will also have to figure out how to run my beloved Anno 1404 in Wine.

As I mentioned before, I'm useless at tinkering around with computer hardware myself. I'm glad when I figure out how to put all the plugs in the right places.

This computer is quite affordable, perfect for a meager budget. It comes from a business seller in ebay, so if it were kaput, I could send it back. RAM and the ssd drive are of course miles above what I have now, but I'm kinda sure my old NVidia is better. 256 gb vs 1 tb sounds bad, but it should do for the main stuff and for everything else I have a couple of external 2.5 hard drives.

What would you guys think?