Fedora is stiff

Sekullarx

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I'm using Fedora latest version and GNOME latest version. When opening, it is a little slower than Windows. It takes too long to wait for something to open. installed on HDD
AMD FX-8350
8GB RAM
RX 460 4GB

(This contraction is at a disturbing level)
 


windows should never beat linux fedora. you have something wrong there.

You mentioned using a mechanical HDD rather than solid state drive. I find that 95% of the time when things get slow it is a failing HDD. Go into the utilities and select the disk app. Then select your HDD and then select the 3 dots toward the right of the top of that window. Select S.M.A.R.T. Take notice of the values you see. if anything that has error in the description has a value greater than zero, you will want to replace the drive as it is beginning to fail hence why it is slow. Check your seek or read error rates also. They are an early indication of drive failure. Once you take notice of this go to the bottom left and select "start self test" and use the extended option. this can take a couple hours. Recheck the readings when it is done. I am willing to bet your HDD is beginning to fail and you likely have considerable seek errors. Once you fix the physical issue then see how much better fedora is than windoze.
 
Swap the HDD for an SSD and see the difference...at least 10 times faster...all Linux Distros are faster than windoze...even when they are switched off.
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I will convert it to SSD and try again. Thank you for your answers. If the problem persists, I want to switch to GNOME Ubuntu
 
@Sekullarx :-

Mm; no, that wouldn't work any better, I don't think.

It seems you don't quite understand what we're saying. It's not the operating system that's the problem.....it's the DE (Desktop Environment) that's the RAM hog here. Granted, the GNOME desktop is the simplest, plainest-looking "desktop" out there.......but it seems to manage to gobble up the greatest amount of resources in doing so, because it's more "tied-in" to the rest of the system than any other. Consequently, there's a LOT of background processes constantly running....

If you switch to Ubuntu with the GNOME desktop, you'll have just as big a problem.

The nice thing about Linux is that, unlike Windows - where the 'desktop' is literally an integral, built-in part of the OS, 'desktops' in Linux run 'on top' of the OS itself (courtesy of what's called the 'display server').....meaning that it's a relatively easy matter to swap-out a 'heavy' one, and replace it with a 'lighter' one, that doesn't use so much in the way of resources. And there's so many to choose from; there's GNOME, XFCE, KDE, Mate, Budgie, Enlightenment, Mokka, E3, etc, etc..... You're literally spoiled for choice.

My own OS, 'Puppy' Linux, creates its desktop from a combination of the 'pinboard' extension of the ROX-filer file manager plus the JWM window manager.

Of course, if you're a REAL minimalist, you can do away with the desktop altogether.......and just make do with a window manager!

If you don't understand what I'm talking about here, just ask; we're quite willing to help & educate those with less knowledge. Believe it or not, we enjoy doing so.....


Mike. ;)
 
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.....and an FX-8350. Hm. Trouble is, all these Bulldozer-family (Piledriver/Excavator/Steamroller) chips hail from the AMD "wilderness" years, when nobody was firmly in charge at AMD and some God-awful design choices were made. And because of the weird way that AMD had split those 8 cores up into 4 "dual-core" modules while at the same time STILL sharing resources and scheduling, Windows of the time couldn't make head or tail of how to allocate threads!

It SAW 8 independent cores.....but AMD's peculiar design arranged this more like a pair of woefully inept quad-cores side by side. Windows didn't know what to do with it.....and despite the octa-core design, performance was notably lack-lustre at best.

Nah; they weren't AMD's finest moment. Nothing ran that well on them due to the peculiar resource handling; AMD were aiming for high frequencies......and we all remember the debacle of Intel's "Prescott" Pentium 4, don't we? The FXs just ended up going round & round in circles at a far higher speed than usual..!

Enthusiasts saw an "8-core CPU", and went "Yee-haw! This is gonna be good....", and instead ended-up being somewhat bemused and often quite disappointed. This makes for some interesting reading:-


Rather you than me, my friend. You couldn't PAY me to use one of those things.....and this from someone who generally prefers AMD to Intel, when given the choice. Zen was as well-received as it was because it was such a stark contrast to the awful Bulldozer; frankly, at the time anything would have been seen as an improvement.


Mike.
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.....and an FX-8350. Hm. Trouble is, all these Bulldozer-family (Piledriver/Excavator/Steamroller) chips hail from the AMD "wilderness" years, when nobody was firmly in charge at AMD and some God-awful design choices were made. And because of the weird way that AMD had split those 8 cores up into 4 "dual-core" modules while at the same time STILL sharing resources and scheduling, Windows of the time couldn't make head or tail of how to allocate threads!

It SAW 8 independent cores.....but AMD's peculiar design arranged this more like a pair of woefully inept quad-cores side by side. Windows didn't know what to do with it.....and despite the octa-core design, performance was notably lack-lustre at best.

Nah; they weren't AMD's finest moment. Nothing ran that well on them due to the peculiar resource handling; AMD were aiming for high frequencies......and we all remember the debacle of Intel's "Prescott" Pentium 4, don't we? The FXs just ended up going round & round in circles at a far higher speed than usual..!

Enthusiasts saw an "8-core CPU", and went "Yee-haw! This is gonna be good....", and instead ended-up being somewhat bemused and often quite disappointed. This makes for some interesting reading:-


Rather you than me, my friend. You couldn't PAY me to use one of those things.....and this from someone who generally prefers AMD to Intel, when given the choice. Zen was as well-received as it was because it was such a stark contrast to the awful Bulldozer; frankly, at the time anything would have been seen as an improvement.


Mike.
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If I had my own choice of computer, I probably wouldn't choose an FX, but this computer was a bit of a surprise for me. I want to try KDE. It's excellent in terms of customization. What do you think about KDE?
 
.....and an FX-8350. Hm. Trouble is, all these Bulldozer-family (Piledriver/Excavator/Steamroller) chips hail from the AMD "wilderness" years, when nobody was firmly in charge at AMD and some God-awful design choices were made. And because of the weird way that AMD had split those 8 cores up into 4 "dual-core" modules while at the same time STILL sharing resources and scheduling, Windows of the time couldn't make head or tail of how to allocate threads!

It SAW 8 independent cores.....but AMD's peculiar design arranged this more like a pair of woefully inept quad-cores side by side. Windows didn't know what to do with it.....and despite the octa-core design, performance was notably lack-lustre at best.

Nah; they weren't AMD's finest moment. Nothing ran that well on them due to the peculiar resource handling; AMD were aiming for high frequencies......and we all remember the debacle of Intel's "Prescott" Pentium 4, don't we? The FXs just ended up going round & round in circles at a far higher speed than usual..!

Enthusiasts saw an "8-core CPU", and went "Yee-haw! This is gonna be good....", and instead ended-up being somewhat bemused and often quite disappointed. This makes for some interesting reading:-


Rather you than me, my friend. You couldn't PAY me to use one of those things.....and this from someone who generally prefers AMD to Intel, when given the choice. Zen was as well-received as it was because it was such a stark contrast to the awful Bulldozer; frankly, at the time anything would have been seen as an improvement.


Mike.
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You seem to know what you're talking about. I'm undecided between Fedora and Ubuntu. And if I were to install either, I'm also torn between GNOME and KDE. Please help me.
 
If I had my own choice of computer, I probably wouldn't choose an FX, but this computer was a bit of a surprise for me. I want to try KDE. It's excellent in terms of customization. What do you think about KDE?
I have been using KDE for a long time and suggest you give it a try. It has improved over the years and it much faster than gnome most of the time. I would start with kde 5.27 for now KDE 6 is too new still has a few bugs to work out, though it's getting there. If you stick with Fedora you will get KDE 6. So you may want to give MX-23, Debian or Kubuntu a spin. Good luck whatever you choose in Linux we have choices.
 
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It has improved over the years and it much faster than gnome most of the time.
I'm using Gnome on my new desktop system and my 9 year old laptop, I barely notice a difference. So unless your are running ancient hardware or a crappy gpu Gnome should be fine in most cases. Also a classic desktop environment if you are wanting something different than Windows, I find that one of the good things about Gnome that it offers a unique experience to Windows when it comes to how you use your desktop but even if you don't want that you can still get a classic experience with extensions. The only downside of extensions is that they need to be updated every new major Gnome release so I don't use that many.
 
I'm using Gnome on my new desktop system and my 9 year old laptop, I barely notice a difference. So unless your are running ancient hardware or a crappy gpu Gnome should be fine in most cases. Also a classic desktop environment if you are wanting something different than Windows, I find that one of the good things about Gnome that it offers a unique experience to Windows when it comes to how you use your desktop but even if you don't want that you can still get a classic experience with extensions. The only downside of extensions is that they need to be updated every new major Gnome release so I don't use that many.
Which distro are you using?
I can't use gnome on Ubuntu But that may be just ubuntu. It simply does not work well on my hardware. Haven't tried it on debian or fedora yet.
 
Which distro are you using?
Silverblue on my laptop on NixOS on my desktop. Sometimes I do notice a bit but then it's only a short hiccup and can't complain about it with an old laptop. My laptop has a dual-core cpu with intel graphics, OP's cpu is better than my laptop's cpu and has a better gpu then my laptop so wouldn't see a reason why Gnome would be a problem.
 
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