Windows treats you like a child

Iamgeese

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After one huge Windows pissup I want to switch to Linux but due to having some specialised software locked to Windows I decided it might have to put up with Dual boot. Upon disabling the secure boot when I restared my laptop, low and behold windows throws a temper tantrum and brings up the dreaded bitlocker screen. Now I have to dig out my old microsoft email which i dont use anymore for anything since I was child.

Windows- forever reminding you that like a medieval peasent you are locked to their land and how dare you try and leave.
 


Iamgeese said:
Upon disabling the secure boot when I restared my laptop
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Did you also disable windows-quick-start [fast boot] as this will screw up everything, oh and if you haven't when you do/did, you will need to do a full power off re-boot for it to take effect , not a re-start from the menu [ easy way....disconnect mains adaptor, save any work, press and hold the power button down for around 10 seconds or until the power light goes off, wait 10 seconds and power on]
 
Iamgeese said:
Windows- forever reminding you that like a medieval peasent you are locked to their land and how dare you try and leave.
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lol, it's time to embrace Linux software and dump Windows for good.

If you really have to use Windows programs you can set up VM, it will work just fine as long as you set up everything correctly and as long as your PC is capable.
 
Condobloke said:
What are your specs ?...ram in particular and ssd or hdd ?
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CPU: Intel i3 @3.6GHz 4 cores
RAM: 16GB
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1650 4GB GDDR5
Drive: 500GB SSD + 1TB HDD for storage only

This setup gives me OK performance for VM's, all my virtual disks are on SSD and I run only 1 VM at a time with 2 cores and half of physical memory, so 8GB memory per VM by default.

My setup is QEMU with virt-manager and networking with openvswitch and custom nftables because default networking uses messed up iptables rules.

In addition I make use of spice-vdagent for full screen support and for Windows guests virtio-win-guest-tools and winfsp for shared directory and clipboard.

This all together gives me experience as if running real OS with no performance hits or lack of functions.
 
What I did: got a laptop with Win11, swapped ssds, put the old one with Win11 into an enclosure and hopefully it will work if I boot from it, like a pristine Win11 system, while I have Linux on the new ssd I put into the laptop.
That was my plan. Will it work, guys? For the time being the Win11 ssd is in a naughty drawer.
 
CaffeineAddict said:
If the disk is not encrypted it should work
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There should be no encryption. It had some, but I hopefully removed it. Even though, I have seen that Linux has some software that is able to decrypt Windows bitlocker encrypted device?
 
Trynna3 said:
I have seen that Linux has some software that is able to decrypt Windows bitlocker encrypted device?
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There is and it's useful if you already know your password, otherwise you have to hack it which might take a lot of time and end up in failure.
 
open the bios and find secure boot [usually in the security settings] and windows quick start/fast boot [usually in the power settings] and disable both of them, then do a full power re-start [[diss connect power supply press and hold power button for around 10 seconds or until the power light goes our then follow the installation instructions
 
CaffeineAddict said:
If the disk is not encrypted it should work
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Lord Windows says it is
Trynna3 said:
What I did: got a laptop with Win11, swapped ssds, put the old one with Win11 into an enclosure and hopefully it will work if I boot from it, like a pristine Win11 system, while I have Linux on the new ssd I put into the laptop.
That was my plan. Will it work, guys? For the time being the Win11 ssd is in a naughty drawer.
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due to inexperience I loaded Zorin onto a new drive put it in the first slot, Windows in the second, realised I had to have windows first to select the Bios (apparently), but it still booted into Zorin. After some farting around I finally thought I worked it out, BUT windows said no. Now this is a tomorrow problem.
 
CaffeineAddict said:
There is and it's useful if you already know your password, otherwise you have to hack it which might take a lot of time and end up in failure.
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Not worried about it. It has no data there, other than system I made a few changes on it. I still can reinstall it fresh. It had no encryption key, I was looking for it and even in cmd it said fully decrypted, so fingers crossed. But if I happen to put some sensitive data there (which I probably will) I will encrypt it somehow. For now I have my previous Win10 pc and I forbade it to upgrade to 22H3 if it ever came. Now it even asks me about downloading updates, nicely, on its knees, down in the bottom right corner.
 
Iamgeese said:
Windows in the second, realised I had to have windows first to select the Bios (apparently), but it still booted into Zorin.
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I think your error was not having both drives in place when you installed Linux, for if you had then Linux should have found windows and built a multiboot grub,

first thing to try is from the terminal

sudo update-grub

this will not work until you have disabled fast-boot and secure boot, see my post above
 
windoze treats people more like suckers or slaves...when they say jump...you say how high...silly people.
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@Trynna3 :-

As m'colleague @Brickwizard says - and does so frequently - in ANY dual-boot scenario involving Windoze, you must give the damn thing its head, and let it have 'pole position'. Because unless you do, it'll whine & grumble like a spoilt 3-yr old, and refuse to come out & play!

More than just that, it'll go out of its way to spoil the fun for everybody else, too. Very 'juvenile' behaviour, but.....there ya go. Some people never grow up, do they?

It insists on 'being in charge'. Sad, but unfortunately true.


Mike. o_O
 
MikeWalsh said:
in ANY dual-boot scenario involving Windoze, you must give the damn thing its head, and let it have 'pole position'. Because unless you do, it'll whine & grumble like a spoilt 3-yr old, and refuse to come out & play!

It insists on 'being in charge'. Sad, but unfortunately true.
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That's why the best way to run windoze is to run it in a VM, should I say in a cage, because that's were windoze belongs lol
in the cage it has no direct hardware access.
 
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