Covid Corner

Condobloke

Well-Known Member
Credits
13,394
This relates mainly to Australia.
It was written by Virginia Trioli, ABC News.
The last couple of paragraphs are not related,

The room where it happens is cold.

In it stands a Premier who has just been told by his deputy chief health officer that he should lock his entire state down to stage four restrictions for an indeterminate amount of time.

The health officer, a leader in his field in respiratory infection and disease, makes his case and the temperature in the room drops a few more degrees.

The Premier speaks — coldly, evenly: "That's a billion dollar a week decision —are you really sure about that?"

The scene is set in July 2020. The health officer is Professor Allan Cheng, drafted from his major public hospital into the battle to fight Victoria out of its deadly second coronavirus wave.

The Premier is, of course Daniel Andrews, and he, and his public health officials and advisers and all the citizens, workers, traders, teachers and children of Victoria are about to try to recover a series of terrible mistakes and official blunders and try to rewrite the playbook of managing a coronavirus wave.

Professor Cheng has this week returned to his medical life and in a valedictory interview with me on ABC Radio Melbourne he reflected on the "agonising" decisions he and his colleagues had to make — ones they took even when they felt they didn't have all the information they needed.

This meeting in that room was one of those moments, and the Premier's question stopped Professor Cheng short. "And I said, I think I'll go away and think about it a bit more."

He did. And then he and his colleagues came back, and their advice had not changed.

The day after Victoria started what ended up being a 112-day lockdown, Allan Cheng said he was driving to work along deserted streets, through a silent, empty city and he thought, "Oh my god, what have I done?"

If it's true that if you ignore history you are condemned to repeat it, then Victoria had already excelled in repeating mistakes. Even Allan Cheng acknowledges that now.

He says he was too late to realise the importance of face masks (a lesson we failed to learn from our south-east Asian neighbours who had already gone through viral pandemics) and he said he was too late to call the hard shutdown: by the time the public health team called it, Victoria was recording more than 600 new cases a day.

The dreaded COVID cliche of there being no rulebook for this pandemic was contained in that very moment, but that was also the moment when we truly began to write our way out and to write a rulebook of our own.

We already had a great draft to work from. A highly successful outline had been completed by the excellent public health and contact tracing team in NSW in their response to the first wave, and a few terrific chapters were also penned by solid responses in other states and by other health departments.

As a result of all our work, we now have the book, we have the way out and that's why the exasperation felt by many at the response of the NSW government to their most recent outbreak of the even more infectious Delta variant is so real.

This is not a Melbourne vs Sydney fight: it is an Australia vs the virus fight, and it always has been.

The sad absence of the unified response you might hope to see from an apparent Federation of states does not diminish that reality, because every mistake, every misstep has been an Australian one, and every less lesson learned — every painful, hard-won lesson — has been an Australian one too, and they are all chapters in a unique and until now unwritten book on how to beat a rampaging virus back to nothing.

We are all the bewildered, exhausted but proud authors of that, and notwithstanding the missing bits — the chapter on how to manage hotel quarantine properly; how to get your own citizens safely home; how to urgently and effectively protect and support your most vulnerable workers — it's an amazing bit of work.

The fact that various decision makers and authorities and governments are seemingly stubborn about opening this book and learning from all this history does not gainsay the profound wisdom in it.

We have witnessed leadership beyond valour in the medical fraternity, among brilliant epidemiologists, researchers and modellers; from public servants in health departments who have worked under the kind of pressure that would make most of us crack; from political leaders who have never wanted to see their citizens exposed to a dreadful disease.

But it took more mistakes, and more hard-won lessons and the exceptionally hard work of many infectious diseases experts and public health modellers to figure the way out of this labyrinth, and when they did it was not a Victorian win — it was one for every Australian.

And it's one that can still provide a pathway out. I am sure that in NSW one will be found.

In the meantime, let us divert you with some great writing. This weekend, with so many millions of Australians across the states in lockdowns, we can offer a superb insight into the power of silence, the reality of women in politics and some wonderfully engaging reads on the Tokyo games, which — I promise you — we are all going to be right into by the end of this week!

Have a safe and happy weekend, let my colleague Sammy J find the slim wafer of humour in all of this for you, and if you feel like hitting the kitchen, my three ingredient recipes are back! This time it's a cake made from a combination of ingredients so mad... it's good.

Play this while you bake: it's 10 years since we lost Amy, but her joy and pain glows eternal.

Our tears will dry. Look after yourselves, New South Wales. And go well.

Virginia Trioli, ABC News. Australia​
 


Nelson Muntz

Well-Known Member
Credits
6,604



 
Last edited:

Condobloke

Well-Known Member
Credits
13,394

brickwizard

Well-Known Member
Credits
3,886
A little lighthearted message..
112113086_3082926695109867_6299656122327248243_n.jpg
 

MatsuShimizu

Well-Known Member
Credits
2,542
Lambda variant pushes up death toll in Peru | COVID-19 Special - DW News
Covid-19 vaccine myths debunked - CNN
Summary from the CNN link above:
Some of the most popular arguments for not getting vaccinated and why doctors want to set the record straight (and more if you click the link and read):

Q: I don't want to get Covid-19 from the vaccine
A: It's literally impossible to get Covid-19 from any of the vaccines used in the US because none of them contains even a piece of real coronavirus.

Q: We don't know what the long-term side effects are
A: Any adverse side effects from vaccines almost always "show up within the first two weeks, and certainly by the first two months," said Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown University School of Public Health. That's why he and many other health experts asked the US Food and Drug Administration to wait at least two months after trial participants had been inoculated before considering whether to give emergency authorization to Covid-19 vaccines.

Q: I've already had Covid-19, so I don't need to be vaccinated
A: Even if you've had coronavirus, you should still get vaccinated because the immunity you get from vaccination will likely be longer or stronger than the immunity you got after getting infected, health experts say.

Q: The vaccine might hurt my fertility
A: This is pure nonsense, Offit said. There's no evidence that people have lost any fertility because of the Covid-19 vaccines.

Q: It's none of your business if I don't get vaccinated
A; Refusing the Covid-19 vaccine actually impacts a lot of people -- yourself, your loved ones, even the country as a whole. "When people say, 'What do you care? You're vaccinated. I'm going to choose not to be vaccinated. You're vaccinated, so you're good'" -- that makes three false assumptions, Offit said. (For details of the assumptions, read the link above. It's long to explain here).

Q: I'm young and healthy, so I don't need to get vaccinated
A: It's critical for young, healthy people to get vaccinated, Collins and other doctors say. Here's why:
- Young people can get long-term Covid-19 complications.
- Young people can be easy transmitters of coronavirus.
- Young adults can be victims of their strong immune systems.

Q: I might not be able to afford a vaccine
A: "It's all free. The government is paying for this," Offit said.

Compilation: What you need to know about the coronavirus right now - Reuters
Summary from the link above:
- South Korea reports highest daily increase in cases. South Korea on Thursday reported another daily record of 1,842 coronavirus cases, as it struggles to tame its worst-ever wave of outbreaks amid rising infections nationwide fuelled by the more contagious Delta variant.
- WHO urges tougher restrictions in Indonesia. The World Health Organization on Thursday urged Indonesia to implement a stricter and wider lockdown to combat surging infections and deaths, just days after the country's president flagged the easing of restrictions.
- Australian PM apologises for vaccine delays. Australia's prime minister apologised for a sluggish vaccination programme on Thursday, while the country's most populous state reported its biggest one-day spike in infections in 16 months and warned cases would likely rise further.
- 'Pingdemic' grips Britain as fears of food shortages grow. Britain's supermarkets, wholesalers and hauliers were struggling on Thursday to ensure stable food and fuel supplies after an official health app told hundreds of thousands of workers to isolate after contact with someone with COVID-19.

Gamma coronavirus variant detected in Russia
Excerpt from the link: "The Delta variant is widespread on the territory of the Russian Federation, with isolated cases of the Gamma variant detected," Interfax cited the institute as saying.
The institute said the Delta and Gamma variants were categorised as "causing concern" because they spread more easily and can reduce the effectiveness of antibodies.

PS: I am busy with life starting from the past 3 weeks and to the future. But I will post here on COVID Corner at least once per week. Thanks.
 
Last edited:

Condobloke

Well-Known Member
Credits
13,394
@MatsuShimizu , thanks for a really good post.

That covers a lot of bases, and a lot of questions that are asked by the general population.

I, for one, look forward to your next post.
 

Condobloke

Well-Known Member
Credits
13,394

SpongebobFan1994

Active Member
Credits
2,689
MODERATOR'S NOTE: The first paragraph below is permissible. The second paragraph is both FUD (spreading of Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) and might be seen as defamatory. It is simply untrue.

I am leaving it intact for now so that readers also read @stan 's rebuttal, and suggest you read at least the first link.

Chris Turner


I'm not vaccinations per-se, but I am against vaccine mandates, and the Powers That Be will gradually make it impossible for anyone to live a normal life again unless they go along with them. One example of that is a number of colleges and universities requiring the vaccine in order to return to campus.
Also, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is involved with the vaccine. Bill Gates has openly called for population control, and after the foundation bullied underage girls in India to take a vaccine for something unrelated to Covid, now they've become infertile, and the Government of India banned the foundation from coming into the country.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

stan

Well-Known Member
Credits
7,064
Bill Gates has openly called for population control, and after the foundation bullied underage girls in India to take a vaccine for something unrelated to Covid, now they've become infertile, and the Government of India banned the foundation from coming into the country.
I offer the following sources to debunk your claim.

Snopes: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/gates-org-kicked-out-of-india/

Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...or-testing-vaccines-on-children-idUSKBN22V27F

India Today: https://www.indiatoday.in/fact-chec...olio-vaccine-disabled-kids-1707666-2020-08-04

Full Fact: https://fullfact.org/online/gates-polio-vaccine/
 

wizardfromoz

Super Moderator
Staff member
Gold Supporter
Credits
16,817
@SpongebobFan1994 - you might want to consider refraining from posting at this Thread, if what you hold up to be fact has not been carefully researched for its veracity (truth).

Please do not post crap, in future it will be deleted without notice.

Chris Turner
wizardfromoz
 

SpongebobFan1994

Active Member
Credits
2,689
@SpongebobFan1994 - you might want to consider refraining from posting at this Thread, if what you hold up to be fact has not been carefully researched for its veracity (truth).

Please do not post crap, in future it will be deleted without notice.

Chris Turner
wizardfromoz
After reading @stan's response to me, I'll admit I was spreading a rumor about India that I found somewhere online. While there is a TedTalks video where he actually said he wanted to reduce the human population by at least 15%, I'm not going to provide a link for it, nor am I going to talk about it any further after this, because that's besides the point of this thread.
 

stan

Well-Known Member
Credits
7,064
While there is a TedTalks video where he actually said he wanted to reduce the human population by at least 15%, I'm not going to provide a link for it, nor am I going to talk about it any further after this, because that's besides the point of this thread.
Sorry, but I will talk about it a bit longer. You really should investigate these things that you are accepting as true. Or change your news sources. I had all of these links in both posts within minutes. You can believe what you want to believe, but please stop sharing your fake conspiracy theories. Thank you.

Snopes: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-vaccinations-depopulation/

Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/article/fac...s-beentaken-out-of-contextagain-idUSL1N2MF1L8

FactCheck.org: https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/scicheck-video-targets-gates-with-old-clip-misleading-edit/
 

SpongebobFan1994

Active Member
Credits
2,689
Sorry, but I will talk about it a bit longer. You really should investigate these things that you are accepting as true. Or change your news sources. I had all of these links in both posts within minutes. You can believe what you want to believe, but please stop sharing your fake conspiracy theories. Thank you.

Snopes: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-vaccinations-depopulation/

Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/article/fac...s-beentaken-out-of-contextagain-idUSL1N2MF1L8

FactCheck.org: https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/scicheck-video-targets-gates-with-old-clip-misleading-edit/
Point taken. Some of the information I got about that was from a guy on BitChute named Dave Cullens (whom I've stopped watching months ago).
That being said, lets ignore my posts because I've realized I inadvertently came off as a troll. I already ruffled enough feathers and I'm actually trying to stop it from getting worse.
 

Condobloke

Well-Known Member
Credits
13,394

Condobloke

Well-Known Member
Credits
13,394
For this in NEW SOUTH WALES, Australia


There is interactive map of NSW further down the page that you can enter a postcode and see the number of active cases there and other information..

My town remains satisfyingly greyed out....no active cases

On the other hand, the city of Sydney lights up...active cases everywhere.....particularly the suburbs south west of the Sydney CBD
 

MatsuShimizu

Well-Known Member
Credits
2,542
WHO Briefing 30 July 2021: Delta variant, a warning the COVID-19 virus is getting ‘fitter and faster’.
Source: World Health Organization Youtube Channel

News summary:
From Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove (Lead WHO epidemiologist and COVID-19 technical lead):

Note: Dr Maria was answering a question. Watch the video for details.
- It’s in the virus’s interests to evolve, viruses are not alive they don’t have a brain to think through this, but they become more fit the more they circulate, so the virus will likely become even more transmissible because this is what viruses do, they evolve they change overtime.
- Delta variant has certain mutations that allow the virus to adhere to human cells more easily and that experts are also seeing a higher viral load in individuals infected.
- In terms of severity, Dr. Van Kerkhove highlighted that there has been an increase in hospitalizations in certain countries affected by the variant, “but we haven’t yet seen an increase in mortality”.
- The WHO expert reminded that although there is some data that suggest that people vaccinated can get infected and transmit the variant, the likelihood is much reduced after the second dose has been administered and reached full effectiveness.
- Delta is not specifically targeting children as some reports have suggested, but warned that as long as the variants are circulating, they will infect anybody that is not taking proper precautions.

From Dr. Michael Ryan (Executive Director of WHO Health Emergencies):
- Even with the virus getting “faster and fitter” the gameplan does not change, but it needs to be implemented more efficiently.
- Delta is a warning that this virus is evolving, but it is also a call to action before more dangerous variants emerge.

From Tedros Adhanom Gebreyesus (WHO Director-General).
Read the full transcript here on who.int or you can watch the video starting from 3:00:
- The pandemic will end when the world choose to end it.
- Almost 4 million cases worldwide were reported last week to WHO and the agency expects the total number of cases to pass 200 million, in the next two weeks. And WHO knows that this is an underestimate.
- So far, four variants of concern have emerged, and there will be more as long as the virus continues to spread.
- The rise is also driven by increased social mixing and mobility, the inconsistent use of public health and social measures, and inequitable vaccine use.
- He said “hard-won gains” are in jeopardy or being lost, and health systems in many countries are increasingly overwhelmed.
- WHO is supporting countries with supplies of oxygen, with guidance to help countries better detect variants, and we continue to work daily with our global networks of experts to understand why the Delta variant spreads so readily.
Situation in Africa:
- In Africa, deaths have increased by 80% over the same period.
- Less than 2% of all doses administered globally have been in Africa. Just 1.5% of the continent’s population are fully vaccinated.
- On current trends, nearly 70% of African countries will not reach the 10% vaccination target by the end of September.
About the Delta variant:
- The Delta variant has been detected in 132 countries, becoming the dominant global strain, according to the WHO.
- In response to the Delta surge, today the Access to COVID-19 Tools Accelerator is launching the Rapid ACT-Accelerator Delta Response, or RADAR, issuing an urgent call for 7.7 billion U.S. dollars for tests, treatments and vaccines.

Compilation: What you need to know about the coronavirus pandemic now - World Economic Forum
Summary from the WEForum link above:
- President Biden pushes cash incentive to get vaccinated.
- China has reported 64 new COVID-19 cases in the mainland, compared with 49 the day before.
- 300 Australian army personnel are being lined up to help Sydney police door-knock those who've tested positive to check that they are self-isolating.
- Almost 690,000 people in England and Wales were told to isolate by the official COVID-19 health app in the week to 21 July, official data shows.
- Philippines to introduce lockdown restrictions in Manila region.
- India has reported 44,230 new COVID-19 cases, its biggest daily increase in 3 weeks.

7 Ways to Cope With COVID-19: Practical methods to reduce your stress today - Psychology Today.
Summary from the above article:
Some of the strategies that work for me (click the link and read for more details):
Strategy #1: Assess the Four Pillars
Maintain good sleep, healthy nutrition, exercise and social support.
Strategy #7: Understanding Your Problems
Open a text editor and write your emotions or thoughts. We need awareness and insight to start making changes in our lives.
1. First, there is an entanglement with thoughts.
- What memories, worries, self-criticisms, or other unhelpful narratives do we dwell on?
- What thoughts do we allow to hold us back, push us around, or bring us down?
2. Second, what feelings are we struggling against?
- What are the emotions, urges, or sensations we are experiencing?
- What emotions are we ignoring, fighting, suppressing?
3. Third, what life-draining actions are we doing? What keeps us stuck, wastes our time or money, and drains our energy?
4. Fourth, what challenging situations are we avoiding? What have you quit, put off until later, or stayed away from?
You can begin to answer these questions by 1) writing out a short summary of the problem you are facing on a text editor, and 2) describing how it affects your life, and what it stops you from doing or being.

Trackvaccines.org - useful website to read clear, and comprehensive updates about COVID19 vaccine development and approvals worldwide.
7 vaccines approved for use by WHO
Source dan details: https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/agency/who/

Vaccines candidates by trial phase
To view the full chart, follow this link: https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/vaccines/
The image below is some of the vaccine candidates, which are in phase 3 trials.



Top ten facts about covid-19 vaccines to share with your family and friends
For details, follow this link: https://covid19.trackvaccines.org/how-do-vaccines-work/

PS: There was so much COVID news this week due to WHO and CDC briefing, so there is a lot of links here. I will post new articles here in 7 days. Thanks.
 

Condobloke

Well-Known Member
Credits
13,394
^^^^^^^WOW !....what an EXCELLENT POST ^^^^^^^

thumb up.png
 

Condobloke

Well-Known Member
Credits
13,394
Professor Cunningham,from The Westmead Insitute,(Sydney Australia) an infectious diseases physician, clinical virologist and scientist, said despite some queries over the longevity of vaccines, they were still the one clear element needed for protection.

"We know Delta's far more contagious, and we know it's present in more than 120 countries," he said.

"It has taken over in the UK, India, the US and Indonesia.

"So get yourself immunised, fully immunised, and abide by the health regulations."
 
$100 Digital Ocean Credit
Get a free VM to test out Linux!

Members online


Latest posts

Top